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Wow, more major media reviews are coming in today, and they are pretty bad in general. I thought I was being harsh on it because I just don't like mainstream movies in general.

Oddly, most of them are defensive of Julia Roberts. Obviously, I don't like her much but I'll admit she's been good in a few things and this is not one of them. Her character is a lame stereotype that she's played many times before and she brings absolutely nothing to it. And hopefully Brian Cranston can sweep his crappy role under the rug.

If you're not used to 'moped' slander in the major media by now, you haven't been scootering long, ha. Roger Eberts comment hurts though. See if I ever watch "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls" again.

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We had a good time Tuesday night in Charlotte.

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Look...in the middle of the black Vespa and my Italia..we had a Riva show up!!

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It's a fun movie. None of us were expecting Gone with the Wind.
Happy with how the "culture" was represented. Could have been better, could have been MUCH worse.
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Sadly, one of the guys from the DFW Get Bent Scooter Club that saw the movie Tuesday night was killed as his Stella was hit by a drunk driver going the wrong way down a one-way street.

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Jackie F wrote:Ebert gave it 2 out of 4 stars. This is what he had to say about the scooter subplot:
Larry is assisted in his lifestyle transition by the fetching Talia (Gugu Mbatha-Raw), who supervises a makeover; he ditches the regular-guy duds for basic black and gets a cool haircut. He also becomes a member of her motor scooter club, which is like a motorcycle gang of environmentalists. How many scooter clubs are there in Los Angeles? Don't tell me. I don't want to know.
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We had 40 scooters ride from Scooterville to the the theater for the premier (thanks for the tickets, Bob!)

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We even had two or three Rivas show up.

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All in all, I didn't think it was a bad movie, but the scooters definitely helped a lot. :D
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JHScoot wrote:pfft. where is Siskel and Ebert when we need them....
Roger (& I call him Roger because I met him once at a fundraiser in Chicago 15 years ago & he shook my hand and looked in my general direction for 2-3 second so I consider us to be on a first name basis)
will have his review up on his website on the first
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ericalm wrote:There are are probably more scooter clubs in Chicago than LA, MR. EBERT.
Chicago is post-scooter-clubs, actually, we've been there, done that. : )

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illnoise wrote:
ericalm wrote:There are are probably more scooter clubs in Chicago than LA, MR. EBERT.
Chicago is post-scooter-clubs, actually, we've been there, done that. : )

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Like Ebert knows that!

(I actually like Ebert's more cranky, opinionated and harshly critical side that he's been showing the past few years.)
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ericalm wrote:You have houndstooth nails?!? The modern world rules.

Should I mention that the scooter in their l'il logo is not the one in the movie? Or that it's flipped horizontally? Probably not. Still cool!
It's these thingies: http://www.sallyhansen.com/products/nai ... ish-strips

The consensus is it's a Vespa PK. Pretty sure there isn't one of those in the movie!
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Blackshirt wrote:Sadly, one of the guys from the DFW Get Bent Scooter Club that saw the movie Tuesday night was killed as his Stella was hit by a drunk driver going the wrong way down a one-way street.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/traffic/062 ... unk-driver
Terrible! Doesn't sound like the rider was an MB member?
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Lisa Scwartzbaum's funny intro for her EW review:
"Anyone who has seen any posters for Larry Crowne knows that there's a middle-aged star at the center of this gummy, aspirational romantic comedy. I'm talking, of course, about the 1983 Yamaha Riva 180 scooter upon whose banana seat Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts perch like vibrant baby boomers who have just saved 15 percent on motorized-bike insurance. "
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20483523,00.html

I'm very surprised that the scooter community is being much more generous in their reviews than the mainstream media. My personal opinion of the flick would be relatively unchanged if the scooters had been something else—urban bicycling or some such.
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GrittyTacoman wrote:
Blackshirt wrote:Sadly, one of the guys from the DFW Get Bent Scooter Club that saw the movie Tuesday night was killed as his Stella was hit by a drunk driver going the wrong way down a one-way street.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/traffic/062 ... unk-driver
Terrible! Doesn't sound like the rider was an MB member?
I watched the video—didn't recognize the rider. (MAY have been a member…) Still—tragic.
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ericalm wrote:I'm very surprised that the scooter community is being much more generous in their reviews than the mainstream media.
Me, too! But I don't think the people who go to Julia Roberts movies could care less what critics (or me) have to say. Then again, Ebert gave Pretty Woman 3.5 stars and compared it favorably to The Princess Bride. As Ann Magnusson said, "It's FUN to be a prostitute!" I'd argue The Princess Bride was at least 10x as realistic as Pretty Woman.
ericalm wrote:My personal opinion of the flick would be relatively unchanged if the scooters had been something else—urban bicycling or some such.
Oh, mine would. I think it was worth watching just because of the scootering, some of the subplots, and George Takei. (And free passes from Genuine!) Without the scooters, it doesn't have much going for it, IMHO, ha.
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ericalm wrote:I'm very surprised that the scooter community is being much more generous in their reviews than the mainstream media
Maybe we just expected much worse. There were a couple moments where I got worried, like when Larry first meets the gang.
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After all the reviews, I may go see it just for the scooters and George Takei. He's the perfect choice for a stuck up professor :lol: I just love the fact that the older he gets the better, snarky-er characters he chooses. They are perfect for his dry style of humor
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illnoise wrote:As Ann Magnusson said, "It's FUN to be a prostitute!"
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neotrotsky wrote:After all the reviews, I may go see it just for the scooters and George Takei.
George is in this? Why didn't anyone tell me?
He's the perfect choice for a stuck up professor :lol: I just love the fact that the older he gets the better, snarky-er characters he chooses. They are perfect for his dry style of humor
He's at the point in his career/life where he can do as he pleases. Coming out freed him of the limitations of just being Sulu all the time, which has opened up new opportunities for him, both professionally and politically.
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It's hard to believe scooter folk would like nerdy stuff like star trek :P
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TVB wrote:…which has opened up new opportunities for him, both professionally and politically.
And the surreal billboard on my way home from work featuring him and Patty Duke wearing Starfleet uniforms and telling folks about Social Security benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/psa-video.html
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The LA Scooter Group got 20 passes to a screening tonight. Mike, Skootz and I went along for the ride since we'd already seen the movie.

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(Check out Mike's one of a kind 2-tone Stella 4T! It's a beauty. A factory-painted 2-tone Genuine used for some displays.)

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I think there are more Vespas in this shot than in the movie:
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peabody99 wrote:It's hard to believe scooter folk would like nerdy stuff like star trek :P
I have a Hologram jacket from GoGo gear. I was told I look like a Romulan from New Gen without the shoulder pads.

I had to take their word until I caught up with a nerdy friend of mine. He was iffy about it, but could see their point.

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The Phx club is going tonight...

The official rating will be at that time... Don't trust the people from La La Land, they are bias! ;-)

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We went to check it out tonight in King of Prussia, cute movie, lighthearted. It was fun to see the scooters, Valderrama (Fez) was our favorite "gang" member. More riding would have be nice :)

Our thoughts are with the family of that fallen rider. That is really sad.
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The humidity was oppressive this afternoon so I scooted to the cinema. I got there about 5-10 minutes before it started (5-10 minutes after the advertised time) and was surprised to see the theater mostly full, to the point that I had to either look for a spot to insert myself into a single empty seat, or sit down in the neck-strain section near the front. (I went with the latter.) I didn't get a good look at the crowd, but the people around me included a surprising number of people in their 60s and 70s, so maybe there was some senior matinee special involved? Or maybe this is the demographic that it's attracting? I dunno.

So... about the movie:

I don't think I would've seen Larry Crowne if not for the scooter connection, but I probably still would've enjoyed it without the scooters (if that makes any sense). At least it didn't include every romantic comedy cliche in the book. The performances were good. And I could relate to enough of the other elements (betrayal by management at a job you love, unemployment, being adrift after a relationship, going (back) to school as a non-traditional student) to find some meat to chew on in the story.

Still, I would've done at least a dozen things differently. Mercedes' husband... first, I'd write him out altogether. A writer who's stuck on his second novel is too sympathetic. The fact that she falls for Larry literally within minutes of breaking up with him (and drunk) cheapens the romance storyline. Larry's ex was long gone; why did hers need to be there for her to rebound from? And I'm sorry, but if you want me to cheer when someone gets dumped like that, you have to do more than just have the characters tell the audience that they're unsatisfied with their relationship; you need to show the guy repeatedly doing something worse than looking at PG13 porn on the internet and sitting around the house doing nothing. That's a sitcom cliche, not a romcom villain.

And it's especially weird that she's so bitter over that, but so blasé about (she thinks) Larry flirting with Talia, and in the same film where Talia's boyfriend's jealousy is just a recurring gag. It's as if the writers can't make up their mind what "infidelity" is supposed to look like, or how people should feel about it. In Larry Crowne 2 I'm guessing Mercedes will dump Larry when he hits another rough patch in his career and surfs the net a little too much, or starts hanging out with pretty scooterists again.

And the teacher/student relationship angle was handled badly, as if the only issue was that people would gossip and she'd lose her job. Everything's OK as long as he's a gentleman, and she gives him an "A-plus" without any guilt? (Do those even exist in accredited colleges?) And the Dean of Students hangs out advising random students and sitting in on classes to leer at the pretty teachers? The inspirational-classroom-story cliches just get in the way here.

So my version of the story: Mercedes has just left the chump she married after high school and she's trying to enter the workforce. She meets Larry in their shared Public Speaking class and initially writes him off, while the scooter makeover plotline unfolds in Econ class and on the streets.

Obviously there was insufficient scootering to fully satisfy me, but the film was called Larry Crowne not Larry Crowne and His Scooter, so I accept that there was more focus on his other relationships. The one scene where Larry discovers the joy of group scoot was a huge grin to watch. The scooterists were presented well, with humor but no jokes at their expense. Too bad they couldn't get the characterization that the Public Speaking students did. The gas-station scene that prompted Larry to buy a scooter - a scene that any member of this forum could have written - was nicely handled, and I wasn't the only one laughing, though I may have been the first to start, since I already knew it from memory. Even the obligatory scene in which the scooter gets passed by every other vehicle had a disclaimer in the dialog explaining that Larry was going slow because he was nervous about riding two-up.

(I think I was the only one who laughed out loud at Larry's line about hoping he doesn't get the "don't tell anyone we almost slept together" talk from the prof played by... George "It's OK To Be" Takei. :) )

Other than my writer-wannabe criticism of the plot and characterization, it was overall an enjoyable movie, that did scooterism no harm and may instill a bit of goodwill toward scooterists among those who see it, even if - like many of my fellow audience members - the only scooters they'll ever buy have names like Hoveround and Amigo.
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BuddyBliss wrote:We went to check it out tonight in King of Prussia, cute movie, lighthearted. It was fun to see the scooters, Valderrama (Fez) was our favorite "gang" member.
He manages to actually look pretty darn cool on his scooter.

TVB - Excellent review (maybe I say that because i agree with virtually everything. In addition to writing out Merede's husband, I would write out Julia Roberts, perhaps in favor of Rita Wilson, who plans the lady at the bank. (BTW - didn't know until I started writing this that Rita is Tom's real-life wife.)
There wasn't much of it, but I really liked the way the scooter "gang" interacted with one another. They show up and help each other out when one needs help, like when they remodel Larry's house or when Talia is moving into her new shop. I see that in clubs all the time and it alway warms my heart.
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Seen it yesterday I really liked it. I can relate to the gas pump scene my black jack is in the shop so I'm stuck with driving my pickup abt $40 in gas a week man I want to put a gallon of gas in it and call it good
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Just saw the movie and found it to be middle of the road likeable. I agree that the romance seemed contrived and forced. I've actually been in that situation (who hasn't) where someone who just got dumped is drunk and overly affectionate and believe me, it didn't lead to romance.

TVB, I don't think the dean was leering at Julia Roberts because I believe that's her father. I think he was just trying to get people to enroll in her class. (In the credits, Dean Tainot, Mercedes Tainot).

Still, hard to go wrong with Tom Hanks. There may have been a bad movie or two in there but I can't think of any. That thing you do is in my top ten of all time.

My favorite part of the movie was (of course, bias considered) when Hanks first pulled into the scooter lot and met scooter girl. The Buddy Italia was parked in the background). I walked out of the movie, hopped on my Italia, patted it on the butt and smiled as I rode past a few people who'd just seen the movie. Got a couple thumbs up.
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I want to go see the movie, but can't find a scooter date! I don't want to go with a cager. :lol:
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I like TVB's review, spot-on.

the line you mentioned got a huge laugh at our premiere, that was the best joke in the movie.

Thadsgood, "Dean Tainot" was the husband (Bryan Cranston's) name, it wasn't the dean at the school. That confused me for a second on IMDB too. Though if the dean were her father (and I sorta actually suspected that might be revealed in the movie, but it never was) it might have made a nice twist, that he was trying to set them up all along (Despite the educational ethics violations, which don't seem to matter to anyone involved).

I may be wrong but I see Nia Vardalos' contribution vs. Tom Hanks' contribution in the characters names. "Mercedes Tainot" with the resulting lame nickname (Mercy) and recurring (and totally weak) pronunciation jokes were the opposite of Larry Crowne's easy-to-remember name and the recurring friendly "with an E!, and the crown symbol on his note, and "Lance Corona," and such.
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Thadsgood wrote:TVB, I don't think the dean was leering at Julia Roberts because I believe that's her father. I think he was just trying to get people to enroll in her class. (In the credits, Dean Tainot, Mercedes Tainot).
:fp: Now it makes sense. I suppose he probably said his name when he introduced himself, but we didn't know her name at the time, so it didn't register. Perhaps they should have made it a little clearer for those of us who don't have phonographic memories or watch the credit-roll? :)
Still, hard to go wrong with Tom Hanks. There may have been a bad movie or two in there but I can't think of any.
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Then I guess it's back to the leering theory
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illnoise wrote:Thadsgood, "Dean Tainot" was the husband (Bryan Cranston's) name, it wasn't the dean at the school. That confused me for a second on IMDB too. Though if the dean were her father (and I sorta actually suspected that might be revealed in the movie, but it never was) it might have made a nice twist, that he was trying to set them up all along (Despite the educational ethics violations, which don't seem to matter to anyone involved).
OK, now I'm thoroughly confused. Why have a character named Dean and a character who is a dean? Unless they're trying to imply that she married him because he reminded her of (someone they don't clearly tell us is) her father....? :?
I may be wrong but I see Nia Vardalos' contribution vs. Tom Hanks' contribution in the characters names. "Mercedes Tainot" with the resulting lame nickname (Mercy) and recurring (and totally weak) pronunciation jokes were the opposite of Larry Crowne's easy-to-remember name and the recurring friendly "with an E!, and the crown symbol on his note, and "Lance Corona," and such.
I'm OK with a character who is self-aware of his name, and a latina turning "Crowne" into "Corona" was cute, but there is a special place in Hell for writers who give their characters a certain name just so they can do something "clever" with it in the title (e.g. "Will & Grace", "Grey's Anatomy", and perhaps the worst offense ever: an animated series set in ancient Rome about a family with the name Holiday (did Romans even have family names?), just so they could call it "Roman Holidays", a reference that no one in the target audience (pre-teens in the early 70s) would even recognize... but at least is tangentially on-topic here because it's a scooter film).
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TVB wrote:
Still, hard to go wrong with Tom Hanks. There may have been a bad movie or two in there but I can't think of any.
Joe vs. the Volcano. Not the fault of Hanks, but I hated that film.
I know people who like Joe vs. the Volcano. To each their own, I guess, I mean, I hate Forrest Gump.
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AlohaScoot wrote:I want to go see the movie, but can't find a scooter date! I don't want to go with a cager. :lol:
I just can't find a date........ :cry: :cry: :cry: :wink:
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Yes, I agree there ARE bad Banks movies, just that it's hard to think of them. I'm no fan of Forrest Hump either. I can't deny its Oscar worthiness, I just didn't buy into it.
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Ok, the Forrest "hump" thing was one of those silly autocorrect things.
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ericalm wrote:I know people who like Joe vs. the Volcano. To each their own, I guess, I mean, I hate Forrest Gump.
I guess Tom Hanks movies are like a box of chocolates....
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We had a small group ride to the theater on Monday (July 4th).

Movie was ok, I did laugh a few times. I've paid more to see worse movies (can anyone say... "release the Kraken")
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Oh I can say it...but when I do, I'll be thinking of a clockwork owl, and all the other stuff the new movie left out! BLACK PEGASUS WTF :roll:
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I like Tom Hanks. Its not like I will go out of my way to see his movies, but a couple have been good. Julia Roberts Meh. She dialed it for this one, as she has been for a looong time. She must have a really good agent.

The film did a great job of depicting the the transition to pre scooter-bland life-to post scooter-awesome but simple life full of clarity, beauty and love. For this I give the film great credit. The scooters were not a prop but played a huge role. Truthfully I cannot think of any movie where they have been so important. We all like to talk about Roman Holiday, but they were still a prop.

If I seem critical, keep in mind I never go to the movies. I do like an occasional indie film fest (if tickets are reasonable) so I am super critical of movies. I was STUNNED tickets are $13.00 and at how costly the concessions are. good grief thank goodness for Turner Classic Movies, youtube and hulu for dumb reruns.
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peabody99 wrote:. I was STUNNED tickets are $13.00 ...
Wow! I paid $5.75 (matinee), there are a few places here in KC for $10 (I love Netflix too!) I did get a medium bag of popcorn for $4.50, but I did bring my own Hot Tamales. I love the mix of the two together.
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and a diet coke was $5.00! I rarely drink soft drinks anymore, but b/c we had free passes wanted to support the venue so had one.
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I went sans drink, so I'm not absolutely sure of the prices but I think the large was $5.

peabody99 wrote: I rarely drink soft drinks anymore
Same here, I limit myself to one or two soft drinks a week (Instead of one or two each day). I lost 40lbs from Jan. thru May by cutting out extra calories.
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iMoses wrote:I went sans drink, so I'm not absolutely sure of the prices but I think the large was $5.
Theater prices make me crazy!!
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peabody99 wrote: I rarely drink soft drinks anymore
iMoses wrote:Same here, I limit myself to one or two soft drinks a week (Instead of one or two each day). I lost 40lbs from Jan. thru May by cutting out extra calories.
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Three words. Matinees and Loyalty cups. A matinee costs $6 or $7, and the big theater chain in AZ (Harkins) even has a Loyalty T-Shirt. Wear the shirt, bring in the cup and a popcorn and a drink will cost you one buck.
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Syd wrote:Three words. Matinees and Loyalty cups. A matinee costs $6 or $7, and the big theater chain in AZ (Harkins) even has a Loyalty T-Shirt. Wear the shirt, bring in the cup and a popcorn and a drink will cost you one buck.
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Syd wrote:Three words. Matinees and Loyalty cups. A matinee costs $6 or $7, and the big theater chain in AZ (Harkins) even has a Loyalty T-Shirt. Wear the shirt, bring in the cup and a popcorn and a drink will cost you one buck.


ok this is going to sound horrible, but I have not seen any movies worth $6 or $7 any time lately.
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There is a theater in Canton, south of Akron and Cleveland, that has movies that are a little old (at the end of their theater run, or just barely on dvd) for $1 so when there is something that I want to see in full sized movie format, but can't really justify full price for the film I wait until it gets there, and have to hope that it does. It is a Cinemark with 10 screens so chances are often good.
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peabody99 wrote:
Syd wrote:Three words. Matinees and Loyalty cups. A matinee costs $6 or $7, and the big theater chain in AZ (Harkins) even has a Loyalty T-Shirt. Wear the shirt, bring in the cup and a popcorn and a drink will cost you one buck.


ok this is going to sound horrible, but I have not seen any movies worth $6 or $7 any time lately.
Horrible? Nah, some people like their eggs scrambled, some like their eggs poached. (I like waffles, myself.)

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At this point, with streaming, on demand, Netflix, Redbox, etc., if I'm going to see a movie in a theater, I want the best entertainment experience possible. I don't mind paying $15 a ticket to get reserved seating that I can select in a theater with comfortable seats and hassle-free parking. The theater I go to most often has a membership program where I accrue points. They also have a screen that puts most IMAXs to shame. Those theaters are usually free of loud talkers, screaming kids, etc.
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