Scooter mitt?

Apiarist · Post by **Apiarist** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:16 pm

i saw these at my local dealership and would like to consider what others may think of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Classic-MotoGear- ... B002AE91YU

ERik3tb · Post by **ERik3tb** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:25 pm

Personally, I don't like the idea. I would feel like my hands are trapped even tho I know better.

Portland_Rider · Post by **Portland_Rider** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:31 pm

In a crash, we can go down fast. Is there any chance your hand(s) could get trapped in there? As long as you can immediately withdrawl your hands, maybe. The photo looked like a part of his bare hand was showing. Are you still supposed to wear gloves underneath? Having a glove is vital of course not just for warmth and grip but to protect us from impact.

nateandcourt · Post by **nateandcourt** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:48 pm

I think they are awesome, I have not used that brand though

The hole that you see in the pic (where the mirror pokes through) may be a bit large and cold air will flow through that... and up your sleeve.

You may be able to plug it.

Just make sure they still fit when you wear your riding gloves.

Apiarist · Post by **Apiarist** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:52 pm

nateandcourt, can you remove your hands quickly? when it is cold out does wearing gloves that are not made for coldness suffice?

actually it was a different brand at my dealership, but this is the only picture of the same concept i could easily find to post here.

nateandcourt · Post by **nateandcourt** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:01 pm

I did find them a hindrance at first.

You can only move your hands away in one direction... back, but it was not hard to pull my hand out of mine. You cant swing your arms to the left or right to catch yourself in a fall, without doing that first. If your gloves are too bulky for the mitts then that would make it harder to do.

But

Weigh that against having dry / not frozen solid fingers. The ones I had worked great. I wore simple armored mesh riding gloves

This is what I wore under mine.

Apiarist · Post by **Apiarist** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:05 pm

for clarity, here is a picture of what is posted on Scoot Richmond's facebook

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:52 pm

nateandcourt wrote:I think they are awesome, I have not used that brand though

The hole that you see in the pic (where the mirror pokes through) may be a bit large and cold air will flow through that... and up your sleeve.

You may be able to plug it.

Just make sure they still fit when you wear your riding gloves.

The description on Amazon says there is a clear window so you can see the controls. Maybe that's what the "hole" is.

nateandcourt · Post by **nateandcourt** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:57 pm

you can see that hole on the right hand. I do like that feature.

I am talking about where the mitt straps around the mirror. On the top.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:44 pm

How hard is it to get your hands back inside the mitts. Do they have stiffeners in the openings to keep it open against the wind? That'd be my biggest concern.

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:50 pm

Other than binding your hands to the scooter, I don't see these doing anything that a good pair of gauntlets would do.

DennisD · Post by **DennisD** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:06 pm

What happens when you fly over the bars and over the car you just hit that pulled out in front of you? Are both arms dislocated at the shoulder and then further damaged when you hit the asphalt or that telephone pole just on the other side of the car you hit?

NOTE TO SELF: Car has pulled out in front of me. I am going to hit it. Before that happens pull hands straight back to remove from mitts.

Too much can happen too quickly.

Post by **ericalm** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:26 pm

Skootz Kabootz wrote:Other than binding your hands to the scooter, I don't see these doing anything that a good pair of gauntlets would do.

Because you live in SoCal!

If it's cold enough, your hands can go numb even in heavy leather or Thinsulate lined gauntlets. Personally, I don't like some of the very bulky winter gloves out there. Sometimes it doesn't even feel like you're grasping the bars.

I've experienced hand numbness even here, riding in 40 degree temps (which are much colder once wind and moisture are factored in). I'd think numb hands probably present more of a danger than these. Do any of these have a quick release mechanism like my cat's collar does?

I've seen some plastic shields for motorcycles (sometimes called hand deflectors or hand guards) that go in front of the handlebars. If they fit on a scooter, it might be preferable for some to having your hands inside something attached like this.

Why buy when you can make your own?
DIY Hand Deflectors
Another DIY Hand Deflector

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:33 pm

They look a lot like Hippo Hands, which I am considering buying, but maybe are more restrictive?

nateandcourt · Post by **nateandcourt** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:45 pm

No quick release, just Velcro straps. The fabric on mine is thick / stiff enough to hold them open but comfortable and well insulated.

Sometimes I feel these mitts are for people who think gloves are confining. which is why I am using my armored mesh. I simply can't use my controls wearing winter gloves.

my mitts are with my v-star in louisiana, my mom is driving it around

I don't know if I will need anything like that in Florida yet.

edit: and before anyone says anything about Louisiana being hot all the time here is my front yard. (Just north of New Orleans) My 3 y/o discovered throwing snowballs on his own.

pugbuddy · Post by **pugbuddy** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:11 pm

No quick release, just Velcro straps. The fabric on mine is thick / stiff enough to hold them open but comfortable and well insulated.

So are they windproof? Would they keep a sharp minus 10 degree wind off of you as you ride? Inquiring minds need to know!

DennisD · Post by **DennisD** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:02 pm

nateandcourt wrote: I don't know if I will need anything like that in Florida yet.

Depends on what part. North Florida can be cold as the devil but it doesn't last all that long. Coldest here I remember is 17 degrees. And yes, it will snow every few years. I built a snowman for my son when he was tiny. Took every bit of snow I could roll up on a 1/4 acre lot. Dirty snowman!

Lasted till the next day. I wouldn't mind the cold if it would kill all those damn palm trees people keep sticking in the ground after cutting down huge oaks and whispering pines.

nateandcourt · Post by **nateandcourt** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:46 pm

DennisD wrote:
nateandcourt wrote: I don't know if I will need anything like that in Florida yet.
Depends on what part. North Florida can be cold as the devil but it doesn't last all that long. Coldest here I remember is 17 degrees. And yes, it will snow every few years. I built a snowman for my son when he was tiny. Took every bit of snow I could roll up on a 1/4 acre lot. Dirty snowman! Lasted till the next day. I wouldn't mind the cold if it would kill all those damn palm trees people keep sticking in the ground after cutting down huge oaks and whispering pines.

Tampa

DennisD · Post by **DennisD** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:56 pm

nateandcourt wrote:
DennisD wrote:
nateandcourt wrote: I don't know if I will need anything like that in Florida yet.
Depends on what part. North Florida can be cold as the devil but it doesn't last all that long. Coldest here I remember is 17 degrees. And yes, it will snow every few years. I built a snowman for my son when he was tiny. Took every bit of snow I could roll up on a 1/4 acre lot. Dirty snowman! Lasted till the next day. I wouldn't mind the cold if it would kill all those damn palm trees people keep sticking in the ground after cutting down huge oaks and whispering pines.
Tampa

BRRRRRR! Coldest place in the state!

Nah. Your son's snowball throwing days are over. It has been known to get down in the 20s and freak out all the orange growers. Lasts a night, maybe two and gone.

Apiarist · Post by **Apiarist** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:17 pm

for the 2 of you who really want to know...

i went to Scoot Richmond today and checked these out. imo there is plenty of room and 'give' so in the event of a crash your hands will follow your body and not get trapped inside.

that is, if they fit the Buddy. the turn signals get in the way, so you'd either have to remove those and wire the dead lights on the front of the scooter for turns, or sew a seam in to make 'em fasten correctly.

brape · Post by **brape** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:34 pm

I have a set I got from someone on scooter diva and they don't fit over my turn signals. I'm going to modify them with some sissors, a sewing machine and velcro.

r0sa · Post by **r0sa** » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:02 pm

everything just looks funky, i personally would stick to just gloves, thick gloves will keep your fingers from freezing

Vic · Post by **Vic** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:12 pm

DennisD wrote: Depends on what part. North Florida can be cold as the devil but it doesn't last all that long. Coldest here I remember is 17 degrees. And yes, it will snow every few years.

Only someone from Florida would say that 17 degrees is "cold as the devil".

-v

DennisD · Post by **DennisD** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:43 pm

Vic wrote:
DennisD wrote: Depends on what part. North Florida can be cold as the devil but it doesn't last all that long. Coldest here I remember is 17 degrees. And yes, it will snow every few years.
Only someone from Florida would say that 17 degrees is "cold as the devil".

-v

Amen.
Working outside day and night is a lot different than going into an office for the day.
Shoveled my last drive and spread salt for the last time in 1964. Had to go out at midnight and spread salt on the drive to melt the ice so my dad could get up the driveway from work. Sometimes he couldn't make it up the hill to get to the driveway and had to walk the rest of the way. Yes, I've put chains on laying in the snow also.

Had my fill of that stuff and determined at an early age that I was headed south.

Y'all enjoy the winter, I'll be wearing my winter riding gear when the temp gets down to 45. BRRRRR.

prrfan53 · Post by **prrfan53** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:57 pm

Our True-Value Hardware store carries a soft leather working glove that has about a 10" gauntlet; flared to clear the jacket sleave. The material is quite soft but a thickness that keeps your fingers warm in the New England cold. And, no really annoying seams! Cost? About $13.00!

rgbwatcher · Post by **rgbwatcher** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:00 pm

There are two other posts which offer DIY solutions to the cold hand issues. (oops - it's the same solution, with two different versions)

Check out
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and
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Looks like a good, inexpensive solution where you could tailor the fit and how easily they allow your hands to free if there is an issue.

Good luck and stay warm!

(PS - maybe someone could do a search for cold-weather hints and ideas that have been posted in past years and offer them in one mega-posting?)

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:12 am

rgbwatcher wrote: (PS - maybe someone could do a search for cold-weather hints and ideas that have been posted in past years and offer them in one mega-posting?)

Go for it. You make it pretty and I'll stick it to the Gear section of the FAQ!

bluebuddygirl · Post by **bluebuddygirl** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:34 pm

r0sa wrote:everything just looks funky, i personally would stick to just gloves, thick gloves will keep your fingers from freezing

Not is Ohio. In the winter I wear ski mittens. They are the kind that if you put them on indoors your hands start sweating immediately, yet in my 45 minute drive to school my hands are painfully cold.

Warning, my husband bought me Hippo Hands last Christmas and the design covered my front turn signals. I thought of them as too expensive to alter so I sent them back. Planning on making my own.

myras_girls · Post by **myras_girls** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:46 pm

I recently purchased some handlebar covers because I ride when it's cold here in Colorado and my hands freeze no matter how thick the gloves. Plus the really thick gloves make it difficult for me to reach the brake and signals.

I haven't had a chance to try them out yet (still recovering from a double ear infection that comes with occasional dizziness). I'll report back once I ride with them.

Modern Buddy

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