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first performance mod advice

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:38 am
by paikkylee
Looking for some guidance / experience on the order to do certain Mods. I'm trying to stay stock with the cylinder, pipe and airbox, so the Mods I'm thinking of are:

Sliders or
variator and sliders
CDI and coil

I'm happy with the top speed, but would like to get there quicker.

Also, anyone tries the Koso variator from buggypartsnw?[/list]

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:48 am
by ScooterTrash
1500 rpm clutch springs (engagement springs)
10 - 10.5g sliders (if you're happy with top speed)
Performance CDI, coil and wire
Synthetic motor and gearcase oil

Not much else you can do without getting serious

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:42 am
by Keys
Actually, you left out one that can add up to 5 m.p.h. to your top speed...a windshield.

--Keys

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:01 am
by neotrotsky
Keys wrote:Actually, you left out one that can add up to 5 m.p.h. to your top speed...a windshield.

--Keys
I thought vinyl racing stripes got you 5mph extra :shock:

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:46 am
by Bcon
neotrotsky wrote:
Keys wrote:Actually, you left out one that can add up to 5 m.p.h. to your top speed...a windshield.

--Keys
I thought vinyl racing stripes got you 5mph extra :shock:
I think you're confusing this with a Stella. In my experience, racing stripes are good for 5mph on a Stella, but only 3-4mph on a Buddy. That's unless it's a red Buddy, then 5mph is reasonable. :lol:

I'm with Scootertrash on the options given the restrictions. However, think about how/where you ride. Those changes will get you a quicker take off, but at the cost of a less relaxed ride in stop and go traffic.

In my opinion, the best single mod you can make to get better acceleration is a big bore kit. Unfortunately it's also one of the more complicated to install yourself.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:11 pm
by paikkylee
So, the Dr. Pulley variator isn't going to help much over the stock 112mm one?

Thanks for the suggestion keys, but I don't think I can do the windshield. Just don't like the look.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:15 pm
by paikkylee
Racing stripes were already on the list. Who can resist extra mph by just adding stickers?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:33 pm
by Keys
It's 6 mph more if the stripes are painted.

--Keys

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:42 pm
by paikkylee
And even more if you've got a racing number?

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:45 pm
by ScooterTrash
Keys wrote:Actually, you left out one that can add up to 5 m.p.h. to your top speed...a windshield.

--Keys
Actually the OP said they were happy with the top speed :wink:

The Dr pulley variator will mostly improve the top end doubled with heavier weights which will affect the acceleration negatively

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:32 pm
by yeauxkneauxit
I would guess that the two electrical upgrades, the coil and CDI would be ok in Texas heat? Only real sitting would be found at red lights, BUT, the freaking heat is 105+ currently.

* The CDI can cause better power output, better MPG's but the risk of overheating is a little higher in dead stop traffic during a hot day, air-cooled engine's Achilles's heel.

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:28 pm
by paikkylee
OK, after re-reading these threads:

topic12264.html
and
topic9140.html

I'm thinking it's a "no" to doing just the sliders without the variator and probably doing the variator, sliders, and a stronger compression spring first. Mainly because they're all available in a nice neat kit from buggypartsnw.com.

After doing those, I'll see where I'm at and consider either the CDI and coil or 1500 RPM clutch springs.

I'm looking forward to getting it done, but not to taking apart the clutch. Straightforward, but kinda a PIA.

Racing stripes though...

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:29 pm
by ericalm
Cuppini mid windshield. Easiest performance mod there is!

I'm not entirely sold on sliders vs. rollers at this point. I know that's a bit heretical in some circles, but while sliders have some advantages, performance-wise I'm still undecided.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:01 am
by paikkylee
ericalm wrote:Cuppini mid windshield. Easiest performance mod there is!

I'm not entirely sold on sliders vs. rollers at this point. I know that's a bit heretical in some circles, but while sliders have some advantages, performance-wise I'm still undecided.
Wow, that's a first. I thought sliders were universally approved.

On the windshield, you may as well tell me pink tutus will make me faster. Wither way, it's not happening.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:31 am
by ericalm
paikkylee wrote:
ericalm wrote:Cuppini mid windshield. Easiest performance mod there is!

I'm not entirely sold on sliders vs. rollers at this point. I know that's a bit heretical in some circles, but while sliders have some advantages, performance-wise I'm still undecided.
Wow, that's a first. I thought sliders were universally approved.

On the windshield, you may as well tell me pink tutus will make me faster. Wither way, it's not happening.
Pink tutus increase drag. Windshields reduce it.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:48 am
by Skootz Kabootz
Then there is the "lose 15 lbs" performance mod. I'm working on that one myself at the moment.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:07 am
by paikkylee
I've for an extra 5-10, but beat case is 5. I know myself on that front.

Keep it up Skoots that'll be an overall life performance enhancement.

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:09 am
by paikkylee
Pink tutus increase drag. Windshields reduce it.
Pink tutus are essential for drag.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:00 pm
by Lovelandstella
paikkylee wrote:
Pink tutus increase drag. Windshields reduce it.
Pink tutus are essential for drag.
:lol:
This is hillarious. Why did I not read this before?

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:07 pm
by viney266
Keys wrote:It's 6 mph more if the stripes are painted.

--Keys
7 with the right air in the tires! Seafoam it and it"ll be 9 mph

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:38 pm
by easy
windshield +5mph
21 racing # +7 mph
dr pully sliders + 8 mph
flame decals + 10 mph
ncy clutch + 3 mph
being a fat azz 255 lbs - 30 mph
nxt mod helium :shock: