Modern Buddy

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:37 am**

The story goes something like this...

I was riding home late this evening when the cvt belt snapped (Or at least that's my guess) Engine would rev but the scooter wouldn't go anywhere.

I called the Genuine roadside assistance and they send out the state police and dispatched a tow truck, the state police came and waited. a tow truck shows up and loads up my scooter before I realize that its not the place Genuine roadside assistance called, they said the state police called them. I told the officer when he showed up that I had roadside assistance coming.

They tow my scooter off the highway and they want money, I don't have money on me so they take my scooter. I know how this works, now I'll have to pay some sort of impound fee to get it out and what ever daily charge they want to tack on. Not cool at all.

I called back Genuine roadside assistance and explain the situation, they say there's nothing they can do and I will have to call Genuine customer service. Well there isn't any sort of customer service number on their website, its all dealers. So I went ahead and sent an email asking for help to [email protected]

This scooter is new (2011 blur 220) with 3500 miles, the belt has probably snapped and has left me stranded. I am covered by warranty and roadside assistance but it would seem that I am now going to incur alot of charges and fees. I'm not willing to shell out money for this. I don't think I should. Maybe I am wrong...

Just a little frustrated right now with the state of Massachusetts and at my scooter that I have been relying on for letting me down.

Has anyone had any experiences like this?

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:47 am**

If they towed your scooter against your consent, they they can't collect anything. That's a form of thievery.

The part that's going to be tricky for you is that you let them take it. Perhaps it was an instance of them misrepresenting themselves until it was on the truck? Raise a stink at the towing company. I HATE shady companies like towing and furniture stores.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:57 am**

Lostmycage wrote:If they towed your scooter against your consent, they they can't collect anything. That's a form of thievery.

The part that's going to be tricky for you is that you let them take it. Perhaps it was an instance of them misrepresenting themselves until it was on the truck? Raise a stink at the towing company. I HATE shady companies like towing and furniture stores.

This is Massachusetts, its pretty much all shady companies and shady government...

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:12 am**

That sucks! And that's all I'll say as a moderator.

Let us know when you get it back, but keep the details to yourself.

Good luck!

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:34 am**

Sorry, no advice to give but I have always wondered how this scenario works when the police call for a tow when a vehicle has been in an accident. The tow company always seems to hold the vehicle hostage until you pay their fees, but if you never authorized the tow what right do they have to hold your vehicle hostage? I've always told myself that if I was in an accident where my vehicle had to be towed (& I was still with it enough) to call a tow company myself so they are working for me and not on behalf of the government agency that called which is apparently what happened to you.

Sounds like you might be in for quite the battle with the tow company. You may be able to do research about scenarios like I mentioned above because it would be a like situation except your vehicle simply broke down instead of being in an accident. Maybe you can find somebody who works for a tow company and you can ask them what rights you really have. The tow company that has your scoot may lie to you all day long just to get your money even if they are in the wrong.

You could always try calling the police and reporting the tow company won't release you your scoot because they weren't supposed to have towed it in the first place.

Good luck!

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:08 am**

A number of years ago I had a car that ended up in a corn field, after I lost control due to icy road conditions (it was winter). Statey showed up and called a tow for me. Tow showed up and got me back on the road. Did not have the $50 for the service so he took my drivers license number. Off I drove and went to their place on payday to take care of my debt.

Sometimes you can get a decent person, in your case I suspect the opposite.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:21 pm**

Why did Genuine send out the state police? That's your problem right there.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:15 pm**

Hwarang wrote:Why did Genuine send out the state police? That's your problem right there.

Most likely because I was on the side of the highway... Probably standard operating procedure...

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:37 pm**

I've never heard of roadside assistance calling the police, just sending the truck.
Are you sure that what actually happened isn't that roadside sent you their truck, then the police independently saw you broken down and called a towing company without asking you which got there before your roadside assistance?

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:47 pm**

Lokky wrote:I've never heard of roadside assistance calling the police, just sending the truck.
Are you sure that what actually happened isn't that roadside sent you their truck, then the police independently saw you broken down and called a towing company without asking you which got there before your roadside assistance?

Yes, the police basically called their own truck even though I told them I had roadside assistance coming. Its probably a safety thing that they have to get me off the highway asap. I don't like it at all, but I do understand it.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:07 pm**

It's not a safety thing; it's the cops+tow company "consortium" trying to squeeze some $$$ out of ya.

And just like you said - "no money? To the impound!" for more fees.

They'll tow anything they can get their hands on for more revenue.

Sounds like they brushed aside your Genuine R/A and told them to take a hike.

Safety my arse; and everybody needs to watch theirs when dealing with these pukes...
remember, they are not your friends.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:14 pm**

Here's the MassDot spin on the subject:

http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/highway/ ... tance.aspx

Notice the part about the state police authorizing an "immediate" tow if your vehicle is in an "unsafe" place. Lotsa room for creative interpretation there.
Regardless, I think that holding the scooter hostage is uncalled for, especially if all they did was haul it off the road and not to some other destination. After all, it was an emergency, you already had another tow lined up, they've got all your info and the state police have a record of the incident. It's not like you're going to skip town and go hide out in Bolivia.

Once again, the triumph of rules over reason.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:02 pm**

Before everyone gets too riled up (and I'm not forgetting the fact that you are out the cost of the tow+storage of the bike at the first towing co.), when the E-Class cut me off and totaled my HD200, the local PD called for a tow from the list of approved towing companies all police departments have. I went to that company's storage lot the day I got out of the hospital, because I too was wary of the cost. It was surprisingly low. Apparently in some areas the wrecking companies have to guarantee fair rates to get on the PD's call list.

Still sucks, though.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:34 pm**

It's kind of a little bit illegal (at least in NY) for the cops and the tow company to do this to you, especially if you were NOT involved in an accident, and already had someone on the way. The cops should have stayed with you until Genuine Roadside arrived, and not called another truck.
Like Speedweasel said, they're trying to get as much money out of you as possible. I had a similar problem with my old car a couple years back... my AAA was on the way, but they insisted their truck take the car because it "was less than two minutes away" (we waited 15 for them to finally get there). This was maybe 5 years ago, before a "limited towing expense" was included in my car insurance, so they wanted money out of my pocket that I didn't have at the moment. They took my car to their shop, and told me I could have it back when I had their money, CASH ONLY. I called my mom, and we went and got my car the next day, they added $150 to the charge because my car was there over night!! This seemed fishy to us so I hired a lawyer, and that tow company got taken off the list and a few local cops were suspended for getting fairly large kickbacks from the particular towing company's "police involved" towing business. They had to pay my legal fees, and I was refunded all of my and my mom's money.

To my advantage here, a good portion of my family works at a local body/mechanic shop, my step-father is one of the on-call tow truck drivers, and one of my best friends is the full time tow/bed driver. When I had an accident in February, I promptly called the police, local guys showed up and said they had already called a truck, I told them they better call and cancel because my truck was already on the way (within sight distance at that point). The other guy had "a buddy" come tow his truck away, which seemed perfectly okay with the cops (?!?!), even though he didn't even have a license!!! Anyway, I learned from my previous experience to not accept them just doing something like this for me, because you never know what they happen to be up to, or what their motivation is.
In a case where you are broke down and need to be taken off the highway as an emergency precaution, they are only permitted by your request to take your vehicle to wherever you want it to go, you could tell them to just leave it at the next gas station, or even Walmart if you wanted. Different companies have different policies about being payed, but if the cops were involved, they have your id #, address, and likely your phone number. There is no reason to impound anything in that case for "nonpayment". Also, if you don't have cash in hand to give to them, it's not that hard for one of them to call in to their shop and read off a credit/debit/whatever card number to the person in the office, or take you there so they can run it themselves... if they don't have a portable device for doing so... which most of them (at least the honest ones) do these days!

This is really unfortunate, and I hope it turns out okay for you. I'm sure Genuine will do what they can to help, but that may not be much because of the police involvement, it's not their fault.
BTW I do doubt that Genuine called the police for you, it may have been someone else driving by that called to report a broken down bike or something (thinking they were being a good samaritan), or even an off duty cop driving by, who knows. If you were in an accident, I would expect Genuine Roadside would ask you if the police were called, and if they weren't, they might do that for you first... but for a break down it just doesn't seem necessary.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:19 pm**

Ugh, that is a messed up situation but to make matters worse, belts are NOT covered under warranty:

Genuine FAQ (I know, I think I'm the only person who has read this):

In a nutshell, consumable parts such as brake pads, cables, tires, bulbs, belts, etc. are not covered. The battery is covered for one month after purchase. All non-consumable components such as the piston, the forks, the frame, etc. are covered for the entire length of the warranty period.

Sounds like a huge nightmare. Maybe it's something else that will be covered under warranty but do what it takes to get your scooter back.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:51 pm**

yeah but a belt should be good for more than 3500 miles. Seems like somebody else lost a belt with very low miles and the dealer fixed it.
Good luck with tow company hope there on the up n up with you.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:04 pm**

Speedweasel wrote:It's not a safety thing; it's the cops+tow company "consortium" trying to squeeze some $$$ out of ya.

And just like you said - "no money? To the impound!" for more fees.

They'll tow anything they can get their hands on for more revenue.

Sounds like they brushed aside your Genuine R/A and told them to take a hike.

Safety my arse; and everybody needs to watch theirs when dealing with these pukes...
remember, they are not your friends.

^^^ That pretty much sums it up...Now that they have towed it. Its too late, just pay and get it out. They are prepared for whatever you throw at them. The time to "fight" was to NOT let them tow it and wait for "your" tow. INSIST on it...Its the only way.

A friend had his car hauler rig towed in the time it took us to go get two spares ( he punctured two tires and only had one spare)...sitting down? 1,000 DOLLARS, yes you read that right...1,000 and there was nothing we could do. Its a racket

Good luck..sorry to hear about this. Let us know how it works out

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:10 pm**

jijifer wrote:In a nutshell, consumable parts such as brake pads, cables, tires, bulbs, belts, etc. are not covered. The battery is covered for one month after purchase. All non-consumable components such as the piston, the forks, the frame, etc. are covered for the entire length of the warranty period.

"Consumables" that fail well short of their expected useful life and through no fault of the owner, are often covered by warranties, despite disclaimers of this sort. It's up to the manufacturer to make that call.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:49 pm**

viney266 wrote:[A friend had his car hauler rig towed in the time it took us to go get two spares ( he punctured two tires and only had one spare)...sitting down? 1,000 DOLLARS, yes you read that right...1,000 and there was nothing we could do. Its a racket

Good luck..sorry to hear about this. Let us know how it works out

Yup. I once got towed in a notorious tow zone. I parked in a 15 minute spot and was out in 10. But my car was gone. I thought it had been stolen. But my friends told me in that area the tow trucks park right around the corner waiting for someone to park too long. They had an agreement with the cops that they could tow without a ticket in that zone. The tow company was owned by one of the cops relatives. I called the tow company repeatedly but no one answered for the rest of the day.

Since no one would answer the phone (of a tow company - uh yeah), I went down to the company address and it was an impound yard. Sure enough, my car was right behind the fence. They wanted $500 (back in the '80's) for keeping it overnight despite my innocence and protestations. I told them to screw themselves and they said fine, they now own my car.

I was with my friend in his car about to pull back into traffic when I saw the guy I had been arguing with leaving the lot. He was walking to a fast food restaurant nearby. So I jumped out of the car, ran back into the lot and drove my car out. I never heard from them again. I figured possession is 9/10ths of the law and I guess they did too.

Everything about that operation was dishonest. But the cops and city were all in on it. I'm sure plenty of corruption money changed hands.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:16 pm**

The moral of all these stories is that we need stricter <enter whatever you don't like here> laws so the police have more work to keep them occupied.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:37 pm**

Yes, that whole police / towing scam is highway robbery. Literally, They stole my scooter right off the highway!

I just paid $131 to "free" my scooter from impound. Called Genuine roadside assistance and had them tow it from impound to ScootersGoGreen (My local shop) which is 2.5 miles away. Now to open up the side cover and see what is up with the cvt belt.... Stay tuned...

Hoping for warranty repair, but if not, I'll just buy the belt and do it myself, its a pretty quick and easy job. (Assuming its just the belt)

Anyone buy a belt recently? What do these things usually cost?

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:46 pm**

Well, I"m glad you got away for 131...It sucks but thats over...Now to fixin the scoot.

Hopin its just a belt...and yeah it can't hurt to call Genuine and ask...Nothing to lose.

Posted: **Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:48 pm**

AWinn6889 wrote: BTW I do doubt that Genuine called the police for you, it may have been someone else driving by that called to report a broken down bike or something (thinking they were being a good samaritan), or even an off duty cop driving by, who knows. If you were in an accident, I would expect Genuine Roadside would ask you if the police were called, and if they weren't, they might do that for you first... but for a break down it just doesn't seem necessary.

I'm not so sure about that. I've had to call the roadside assistance for the Stella before... it was pretty obvious to me that it's a company Genuine contracts, not Genuine proper, and they were kind of shitty tbh. The R.A. only contracts certain tow places, too, so if you exceed the covered amount of a single tow just because the nearest contracted tow-er is far away, you have to pay the rest out of pocket, cash on the spot (we learned this when the Stella broke down on the way home from Baltimore). One of the first things the dude on the phone asked me, like eight times, and then several times after that, were things like were we blocking the road, were were injured, etc- they seemed to me to be obvious trigger questions meant to help the person taking the call evaluate whether or not they needed to call EMS (police, fire, medic). If you think about it, if we needed EMS somehow and they didn't call for us, somebody somewhere would find a way for them to be liable if something happened because of it... so I'm sure in order to serve you with the roadside assistance they must first either rule out the need for EMS, or call them to the site.

However... it's total bullshit that they took your bike. I freaking hate tow companies. My 2nd apartment complex had exactly one parking space for each apartment... we accidentally parked in the one next to ours. 3am we were woken up by my car alarm going off... my ex and I looked out the window to see it being towed. My ex chased them across the parking lot with no shoes and shirt, they didn't even get out of the complex... but they made us pay $60 for hooking up the car at all.

Anyway... I'd file a complaint with the police and at least crab to somebody about what happened.

Lostmycage may be right, it technically could be said that they stole your scooter- but just like in my apartment complex once they drove out there and hooked it up they wanted money... and even though the police called them, the police wouldn't have paid them, and you couldn't, so they took your scoot as collateral.

Also, I'm assuming Genuine/R.A probably didn't tell your which tow company they were sending? If they didn't, you can try to complain to them and say "Hey, look, I'm in this mess because you didn't give me a way to identify your tower from another. Reimburse me for the tow." Slim chance but it could work?

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:14 am**

omniphil wrote:Yes, that whole police / towing scam is highway robbery. Literally, They stole my scooter right off the highway!

I just paid $131 to "free" my scooter from impound. Called Genuine roadside assistance and had them tow it from impound to ScootersGoGreen (My local shop) which is 2.5 miles away. Now to open up the side cover and see what is up with the cvt belt.... Stay tuned...

Hoping for warranty repair, but if not, I'll just buy the belt and do it myself, its a pretty quick and easy job. (Assuming its just the belt)

Anyone buy a belt recently? What do these things usually cost?

Update: Oops. Brainfart. Totally thought I read that you had a 125.
Nevermind me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:18 am**

monamibuddy wrote:
omniphil wrote:Yes, that whole police / towing scam is highway robbery. Literally, They stole my scooter right off the highway!

I just paid $131 to "free" my scooter from impound. Called Genuine roadside assistance and had them tow it from impound to ScootersGoGreen (My local shop) which is 2.5 miles away. Now to open up the side cover and see what is up with the cvt belt.... Stay tuned...

Hoping for warranty repair, but if not, I'll just buy the belt and do it myself, its a pretty quick and easy job. (Assuming its just the belt)

Anyone buy a belt recently? What do these things usually cost?
The bottom two links are for the Gates (Kevlar) belt. I think Bando is the stock version.
Make sure what you are buying is a genuine (as in real, not fake) part.
I would advise against buying from the place to the right. I have compared authentic Gates parts versus their offerings. It is my opinion that they are knock offs. The labeling is way off: http://www.scooterbelt.com/7432030.html

Scooter Lounge is a great place, and Dave will take of you.

http://www.scooterloungeonline.com/sear ... 920=Search

...and of course:

http://www.scooterworks.com/Belt-Gates- ... P7072.aspx

Wrong belt. The OP has a Blur 220i.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:45 am**

LunaP wrote:
AWinn6889 wrote: BTW I do doubt that Genuine called the police for you, it may have been someone else driving by that called to report a broken down bike or something (thinking they were being a good samaritan), or even an off duty cop driving by, who knows. If you were in an accident, I would expect Genuine Roadside would ask you if the police were called, and if they weren't, they might do that for you first... but for a break down it just doesn't seem necessary.
I'm not so sure about that. I've had to call the roadside assistance for the Stella before... it was pretty obvious to me that it's a company Genuine contracts, not Genuine proper, and they were kind of shitty tbh. The R.A. only contracts certain tow places, too, so if you exceed the covered amount of a single tow just because the nearest contracted tow-er is far away, you have to pay the rest out of pocket, cash on the spot (we learned this when the Stella broke down on the way home from Baltimore). One of the first things the dude on the phone asked me, like eight times, and then several times after that, were things like were we blocking the road, were were injured, etc- they seemed to me to be obvious trigger questions meant to help the person taking the call evaluate whether or not they needed to call EMS (police, fire, medic). If you think about it, if we needed EMS somehow and they didn't call for us, somebody somewhere would find a way for them to be liable if something happened because of it... so I'm sure in order to serve you with the roadside assistance they must first either rule out the need for EMS, or call them to the site.

That's what I meant though, the OP didn't say that Genuine RA asked any questions like these. If they had indeed asked questions and somehow felt that the police needed to be involved they probably would have told him something along the lines of "okay, local law enforcement is on it's way to assist you, the tow truck should be close behind." But by the OP's post, it sounds like the cops just showed up with their own truck out of the blue, while the Genuine RA was on it's way... suggesting that the police were informed by someone else.
Of course it's a company Genuine contracts when they send you someone for roadside assistance, that's how pretty much all roadside assistance works. I have it through my insurance, and through my verizon account. Just like the cops, they have a list of their own "approved" companies/contracted companies that they use.... maybe for some car makes/bike makes, if you are buying from a huge company that has thousands of dealerships nation wide (ie. one nearby wherever you may be stranded), they might send their own trucks out to come get you, but usually that's more expensive than hiring some on-call contracted company, especially if it's after hours. I know for sure that my local Genuine dealer DOES NOT have any kind of flat bed or tow truck, so they aren't going to be the one saving my tush if I break down anywhere near, or far from here.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:19 pm**

omniphil wrote:
Lostmycage wrote:If they towed your scooter against your consent, they they can't collect anything. That's a form of thievery.

The part that's going to be tricky for you is that you let them take it. Perhaps it was an instance of them misrepresenting themselves until it was on the truck? Raise a stink at the towing company. I HATE shady companies like towing and furniture stores.
This is Massachusetts, its pretty much all shady companies and shady government...

Yea, haven't you seen the departed? Last time and only time I was in Boston, I had a shady towing company scoop up my CRX which was "legally" parked in a private alley. I had already called in the plates to the towing company and property manager, but the secretary at the tow company apparently failed to relay my info. Well I had to shell out $50 just for the driver to unhook my car (I was near a window and saw him quickly back in and scoop the front wheels up). Then I had to find another parking spot I felt comfortable leaving it, which was about 2 miles away under the Mass Pike. I'm glad I don't rely on a car anymore, nor will I ever try to park in Boston again.

If that were Virginia State Police, they would probably show up and run my tags, license, search under the seat, give me a patdown, then a field sobriety test just because I'm on a scooter.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:32 pm**

BootScootin'FireFighter wrote:
omniphil wrote: If that were Virginia State Police, they would probably show up and run my tags, license, search under the seat, give me a patdown, then a field sobriety test just because I'm on a scooter.

Luckily I have had no such tangles with VASP, but I've heard stories of course. The troopers I have come across have generally been nicer than a lot of the local county cops... but I haven't encountered them while they were doing their job.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:46 pm**

I guess this is one time I'm lucky to live in Alabama. In my experience, the AHP is very professional.

I've often wondered about who and what picks up your scooter or motorcycle if you have some sort of coverage like that. I've never seen a special vehicle made to carry a bike.

When I've had breakdowns in the past, I just call a friend or family member who shows up with a pickup and trailer. Thankfully, I've never had a breakdown far from home. I've often wondered if there is an opportunity for a niche business around here for somebody to get a MC trailer and operate a bike/scooter towing service.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:56 pm**

Genuine uses Roadside America, which has relationships with lots of local towing companies. When I used them, they sent a flatbed from probably the biggest local towing service. Little bitty Buddy looked silly on the back of Great Big flatbed, but he had a good boxload of tiedowns and it arrived at the dealer safe and sound.

But I agree with the folks above who said that the RA operator should tell you which tow company to expect to show up. That's probably a good question to ask the operator if they don't volunteer it. Ditto to whether or not they called the cops, and that they should tell the cops that a wrecker is on the way already.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:28 pm**

omniphil wrote: Now to open up the side cover and see what is up with the cvt belt.... Stay tuned...

Hoping for warranty repair, but if not, I'll just buy the belt and do it myself, its a pretty quick and easy job. (Assuming its just the belt)

Anyone buy a belt recently? What do these things usually cost?

What was the shop's diagnosis?

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:59 pm**

gtsteve wrote:
omniphil wrote: Now to open up the side cover and see what is up with the cvt belt.... Stay tuned...

Hoping for warranty repair, but if not, I'll just buy the belt and do it myself, its a pretty quick and easy job. (Assuming its just the belt)

Anyone buy a belt recently? What do these things usually cost?
What was the shop's diagnosis?

Just the belt was replaced, I pick it up tonight. So I guess it was just a freak belt type of thing, Seems the belt should be good for 8000 miles or so normally.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:51 pm**

It happens. I've read on Harley boards where the final drive snaps mysteriously even though the miles are low.

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:52 pm**

Southerner wrote:It happens. I've read on Harley boards where the final drive snaps mysteriously even though the miles are low.

So maybe I need to carry a spare belt and torque wrench in the underseat store. yuck...

Posted: **Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:11 pm**

If so, you might want to be careful about how you store it. Some of the Harley failures were suspected to be caused by the manner in which said belt was shipped or stored. Don't allow it to be kinked or twisted.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:41 pm**

New belt installed and the scooter runs better than when I bought it. I was able to hit an indicated 90mph on the speedo (slight downhill), which is probably about 78mph. I've never managed to get it that fast before, it always topped out at about 86mph indicated with a steeper downhill.

I guess the guys polished everything up real well in there, its never been this smooth before...

I still need to track down a belt part number so we can cross reference it...

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:54 pm**

I did a double-take when I read that. Then I remembered that you have a Blur.
I don't know what all parameters have to match before CVT or any belts can interchange. There's the diameter, width and cross-section to be considered, plus the internal construction of the belt has to be stout enough to meet the purpose. There was a local supply store here in town that had a belt to fit just about anything. Mostly Gates, I think. You just brought in the remnants of whatever you had and they would measure it and dig out a replacement. But this was just for things like lawnmowers, etc.

I assume there must be a "Belt Superstore" somewhere.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:07 pm**

Southerner wrote:I did a double-take when I read that. Then I remembered that you have a Blur.
I don't know what all parameters have to match before CVT or any belts can interchange. There's the diameter, width and cross-section to be considered, plus the internal construction of the belt has to be stout enough to meet the purpose. There was a local supply store here in town that had a belt to fit just about anything. Mostly Gates, I think. You just brought in the remnants of whatever you had and they would measure it and dig out a replacement. But this was just for things like lawnmowers, etc.

I assume there must be a "Belt Superstore" somewhere.

Part of the issue I think is the new and old belt had no parts numbers on it which I find odd...

Modern Buddy

Belt snapped and now my scooter has been towed away.

Belt snapped and now my scooter has been towed away.