Malossi carb for Buddy 50!!

MarkPenn1 · Post by **MarkPenn1** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:28 pm

has anybody put on a Malossi carb on their Buddy 50...if so what all was needed besides carb...intake..exhaust...air cleaner?? And was it worth it??

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:17 pm

Two stroke oil.

pattio · Post by **pattio** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:22 pm

If you have scooter that is not running, changing out _any_ part for a performance part is not a good idea.

When it comes to performance carbs, they usually come several steps into the performance upgrade process, when you absolutely need more fuel to work with your other upgrades like cylinders or pipes. Fiddling around with variator weights can be a fun way to change your performance without going that far or spending that much.

Raiderfn311 · Post by **Raiderfn311** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:29 am

Syd wrote:Two stroke oil.

Too soon.

Post by **ericalm** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:22 am

pattio wrote:If you have scooter that is not running, changing out _any_ part for a performance part is not a good idea.

I'm sure plenty will disagree with this!

Good parts, properly installed and maintained, shouldn't cause problems. Of course where most people go wrong with performance parts is installing low-quality parts, improperly installing them and/or now maintaining them properly.

Tuning a carb does take some knowledge and patience but it's not as if this is new territory for a good mechanic.

Many members have cylinder kits, Prima pipes, NCY variators and other parts that haven't caused any issues. I don't know anyone who has the Malossi carb installed, but I've installed Malossi cylinder kits and variator in another scooter and they're solid parts.

pattio · Post by **pattio** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:25 am

My point is that replacing stock parts with performance parts is not good trouble-shooting practice. If the vehicle was working, and a part wore out or broke, sometimes that makes a logical opportunity to replace it with a performance part. If the vehicle isn't working, moving in a stock direction is a surer path to figuring out the problem.

Raiderfn311 · Post by **Raiderfn311** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:27 pm

I definetely see what your saying pattio. Installing a part when its not running only adds to the variables of what could be wrong.

MarkPenn1 · Post by **MarkPenn1** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:56 pm

#1 ...Thanks to you all and very reasonable inputs... in case the the oil doesn't resolve the issue and infact is the carb.. wanted an opiton before spending $138 on a O.E.M and then down the road finding out would have been better off with spending another $ 65 for a good upgraded carb...
#2 ..have know idea what a variator is for more performance? Will again have to be educated by you folks on that little adventure...

pattio · Post by **pattio** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:16 pm

MarkPenn1 wrote:#1 ...Thanks to you all and very reasonable inputs... in case the the oil doesn't resolve the issue and infact is the carb.. wanted an opiton before spending $138 on a O.E.M and then down the road finding out would have been better off with spending another $ 65 for a good upgraded carb...

Before you replace the whole carb, consider replacing just whatever part you touched with a drill. A new main jet should set you back $6 to $10.

#2 ..have know idea what a variator is for more performance? Will again have to be educated by you folks on that little adventure...

The variator weights are a group of little rollers that look like a cheese-filled-combo in your transmission. They affect the 'engagement' of your transmission, in a way that can help you either 1)come harder off the line or 2)what your top speed is. Putting lighter weights in makes your bike launch harder (extremely helpful if your riding is urban), putting heavier weights in gives you, possibly, more top end. The issue is not 'more' power, it's more a question of how your power gets applied. They are not expensive, and give you an immediate result that you can feel.

Lastly, if your bike is a stock 49cc, you should know that new 49ccs are sold in a 'restricted' configuration that limits them to 30-35mph. Having your scoot 'derestricted' usually gives an immediate performance boost at no cost to reliability. Look into whether your bike is de-restricted before you do any other performance modifications.