Modern Buddy

Son of a of a horn!
Tell me I'm not the only one who hits the horn instead of the turn signal with gloves on.

No, you are the only one!


jk... I still do it from time to time

I'm the opposite. I intend to honk the horn and I turn on my turn signal instead. It totally loses it's impact on my intended target.

Oh man I do that all the time. People always think I'm honking at them.

k1dude wrote:I'm the opposite. I intend to honk the horn and I turn on my turn signal instead. It totally loses it's impact on my intended target.

Nah, I'll bet that flashing light makes him sit right up and take notice!

Aw man, I've done that plenty of times having the Stebel, it makes your mistake that much louder, too...

I did that a couple times on the Buddy but seemed to be more likely to accidentally hit the horn when parking and getting on/off.

Going from the Stella to my Vespa is confusing: Stella turn signals are where the kill switch is on the Vespa. So I've killed the Vespa engine a couple times. It'll be even more confusing if I get my third scooter rolling; it has a different layout.

Also, I tried to signal on my bicycle recently, and occasionally try the nonexistent rear brake pedal on the Vespa.

LunaP wrote:Aw man, I've done that plenty of times having the Stebel, it makes your mistake that much louder, too...

Luna, when you do that, just wave your arm like someone just did something stupid.

never happens i never do it and i have 250,000 miles of riding under my helmet

^^^Just a question. Have you changed your meds lately? Just saying your personality seems to be shifting. Dont get me wrong, you were one of the first people I warmed up to on MB. Im just saying maybe chasing down the pills with grain alcohol may not be a good idea.

Edit-To be fair Ive had a few beverages here.

no. i got some work doing advertising copy on the side. so when i am at my computer working i post very casually here to clear my head and get back to work in between

i did not realize people take posting lightly....so seriously sometimes. i suppose we all sit back behind our screens and post. myself? i think nothing of the posts of others except to be entertained and informed and to laugh a bit

off my meds? nope. just pretty carefree

JHScoot wrote:no. i got some work doing advertising copy on the side. so when i am at my computer working i post very casually here to clear my head and get back to work in between

i did not realize people take posting lightly....so seriously sometimes. i suppose we all sit back behind our screens and post. myself? i think nothing of the posts of others except to be entertained and informed and to laugh a bit

off my meds? nope. just pretty carefree

I think everybody takes it differently. That's how the battleaxes end up coming out sometimes. I think we get along pretty swell here, though- the only other message forum I've been on for an extended period of time, which was a pet message board with sub-boards focused on different species, could get REALLY heated. It was kind of surprising. One thread would be nothing but squees and and cute cuddly pics and <3, and the next was just ... why I stopped posting when I adopted out all my rescues, and why I haven't stopped posting here even though I'm scoot-less right now.

correct you are, luna. i have moderated large boards for brief periods. just filling in for absent mods. so i know the deal

i think we all "get along" here. if i post something and someone is offended by something fairly benign and i am confronted on the internet by them....i usually won't go back and forth with them. its just not my way

i am a very casual guy in that regard. sometimes people post at me "hey! how can you say this and THAT!"

well because i have an opinion and its reasonable and this is a message board. but i certainly don't want to argue or give the impression i am off my meds!!

for instance i like you, luna. you seem cool. and raider and eric and bootscootin and skootz and lokky and well.....just about everyone!!

JHScoot wrote:off my meds? nope. just pretty carefree

How do we know that you weren't on meds that prevented you from lying about being off your meds?

JHScoot wrote:but i certainly don't want to argue or give the impression i am off my meds!!

Something everyone should be conscious of when posting!

Members wondering "what the hell is up with [so and so]?" should be a red flag because that means that whatever the intent, people simply aren't getting it. If no one but you gets it, you're posting purely to entertain yourself. And once people get the idea that you're posting purely to entertain yourself with no regard for others, they start to get annoyed. This is something we've seen quite a bit on ModernVespa. It never ends well. No one wants to be that guy.

JHScoot wrote:correct you are, luna. i have moderated large boards for brief periods. just filling in for absent mods. so i know the deal

i think we all "get along" here. if i post something and someone is offended by something fairly benign and i am confronted on the internet by them....i usually won't go back and forth with them. its just not my way

i am a very casual guy in that regard. sometimes people post at me "hey! how can you say this and THAT!"

well because i have an opinion and its reasonable and this is a message board. but i certainly don't want to argue or give the impression i am off my meds!!

for instance i like you, luna. you seem cool. and raider and eric and bootscootin and skootz and lokky and well.....just about everyone!!

Haha thank you, I like you too. In fact I can only remember hating one person here, that was supermach. We know how that story ended.

I find I like scooter people in general. The only kind of scooter person I can't get along with is a vintage snob. I find them no different than a Hardley asshole... they look down on me because what I ride and like is not what they ride and like. And btw, that parallel makes me laugh a LOT.

Mousenut wrote:Son of a of a horn!
Tell me I'm not the only one who hits the horn instead of the turn signal with gloves on.

I don't think that's ever happened to me. What I get All The Time, though, is the seat hitting the "hazard" switch when I flip it up. It's taken me a while to stop scrambling to turn the hazard indicator back off whenever that happens.

JHScoot, I was giving you shit like I would a friend of mine. We are a community. When I post stuff like I did before, the filter in my brain has FAILED. Sometimes this is good. Sometimes it is bad.

That hasn't happened to be. I have difficulties finding the horn so it looks like I'm thumb wrestling an imaginary thumb. By the time I find it, the moment is gone.

I just bought a 1965 Vespa Sprint 150 & getting use to the clutch & floor brake

BUT

I've already been using the imaginary floor brake & floor clutch. It goes back to my MSF class that I took on a MC.: "All 4 paws".

Raiderfn311 wrote:JHScoot, I was giving you shit like I would a friend of mine. We are a community. When I post stuff like I did before, the filter in my brain has FAILED. Sometimes this is good. Sometimes it is bad.

Do we need to order you a new filter?

Speaking of filters today I took my moms car to get the oil changed and its been so long since I had a car I forgot how they operate. Not the car, the repair places, of course.

Imagine my dismay when they bring not only the cabin air filter, engine air filter, and wiper blades to me explaining they need to be replaced, but have already started to install new ones. Well, I told them to put the old ones back in, and fast. This is how a $30 oil change turns into a $120 rip off for many.

I tell you, I had forgotten what these auto repair places are like. Never again.

JHScoot wrote:Speaking of filters today I took my moms car to get the oil changed and its been so long since I had a car I forgot how they operate. Not the car, the repair places, of course.

Imagine my dismay when they bring not only the cabin air filter, engine air filter, and wiper blades to me explaining they need to be replaced, but have already started to install new ones. Well, I told them to put the old ones back in, and fast. This is how a $30 oil change turns into a $120 rip off for many.

I tell you, I had forgotten what these auto repair places are like. Never again.

Things I did not miss about cars.

LunaP wrote:
Do we need to order you a new filter?

I bet it needs a special wrench. Do you have the torque specs?

LunaP wrote: Haha thank you, I like you too. In fact I can only remember hating one person here, that was supermach. We know how that story ended.

I almost forgot about that guy! Too funny.

VW forums are the worst that I've seen so far.
The community is split into three sections, the vintage guys, the "whatever, it's a VW, we're all family" people (like myself), and the ricers/new school guys. But in most cases the community is so small that everyone gets pinned up against each other, opinions are pushed too far, and people just end up being big DBs.
I'm sure this happens on a lot of vehicle-specific forums out there.

Much is the same for the scooter world, and I feel like if there was just one giant scooter forum, meant to fit the vintage snobs, the vespa purists, and the "we ride scooters, and we like to have fun" people all together, there would be a lot more problems... Thankfully in the scooter world there are large enough communities of each that we can separate ourselves and keep things cool. It's the internets though, and I think people just don't take a second to think about that sometimes.


What I love most is when someone argues that someone else "implied" something on the internet, "oh, 'so and so' said THIS, and can't possibly mean exactly what they said, it must mean THAT! ..and THAT is wrong!"

Thankfully most of us here are like-minded in our love for Genuine, the Buddy, and have appreciation for most of the other makes and brands out there. It makes for a mostly positive and knowledgeable community environment on the interwebs, which is definitely rare these days.


So what was the original post about? Oh, right, hitting the horn instead of the blinkers... I find myself doing the opposite most times, it makes for unsuccessful angry gestures at the cagers that are trying to kill me.

with the bigger horn, I have caused spilled coffee and dropped cell phones amongst pedestrians accidentally more than once.

Mousenut wrote:

LunaP wrote:
Do we need to order you a new filter?

I bet it needs a special wrench. Do you have the torque specs?

Hehe nope, I'm not sure about that model

AWinn6889 wrote: What I love most is when someone argues that someone else "implied" something on the internet, "oh, 'so and so' said THIS, and can't possibly mean exactly what they said, it must mean THAT! ..and THAT is wrong!"

Thankfully most of us here are like-minded in our love for Genuine, the Buddy, and have appreciation for most of the other makes and brands out there. It makes for a mostly positive and knowledgeable community environment on the interwebs, which is definitely rare these days.

Yeah, I stopped assuming I knew exactly what somebody intended me to perceive through the typed word when I was about 17. I do my best sometimes by taking words at literal face value, especially if somebody can't compose a sentence or spell properly... but the typed word lacks body language, facial expression, context, and voice inflections that we take for granted in communication. I think too many people don't take that into account on the interwebs.

Every now and then a couple of us get grumpy at the same time, but it's nothing batman riding on a unicorn, aka the Genuine Cruiser, can't fix. I likes it here.

skully93 wrote:with the bigger horn, I have caused spilled coffee and dropped cell phones amongst pedestrians accidentally more than once.

I scared a couple people with my horn also. Truth be told, I didn't use it often. But it always made people look around. I watched a whole carful of teens jump in their seats and look around, unable to figure out where the noise came from, when I laid on it after they failed to go for about 30 seconds after the light turned green, it was pretty funny!

Uhhhhhh....where is the horn

What, the world's greatest horn, and you don't use it?

I "test" mine in underpasses & tunnels, just for the helluvit.

PeteH wrote: I "test" mine in underpasses & tunnels, just for the helluvit.

Used to do that I don't know how many times with my younger son riding on the back with me. Last couple times he rode with me I'd get a slap on my shoulder, "Don't even THINK about it dad!"

Late last night I rode home from the movie theater via some unlit roads, so I had the headlight on bright for visibility... and apparently forgot to turn it off when I reached civilization again and parked the scooter. I noticed it this morning when I glanced down at the speedo as I pulled out of my driveway, and something about the "bright" indicator being on the right side* must have triggered the wrong side of my brain, so I hit the kill switch instead of the headlight switch on the left. The engine kept running powerlessly on its own momentum, and I panicked for an instant, wondering what kind of strange electrical problem could cause me to lose so much power just from switching the headlight. Then I realized my error, flipped both switches, and the engine buzzed back to full power.

*Really good industrial designers think about this sort of thing as they're developing a product.

I got cut off by a woman on the cellphone with long fingernails and no sense last week. I went to give her an angry blast of horn and she got my turn indicators instead.

Scooter snobs. Ugh. My brother and I played surf and 60s garage music and je belongs to a surf guitar site and an offset guitar site. The surf guitar site... Talk about snobs. If you don't have a vintage Moserite or a vintage Jaguar or whatever they treat you terribly. Heaven forbid you play an Eastwood. But who needs them? Vintage scooter snobs are just as bad. If I had to pay that much for a scooter and whatever for the maintenance I'd just have to miss out on all the scootering fun. I love my Buddy and I love the inclusiveness of this group and the sense of fun and joy of scootering.