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170i Cooler position?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:11 am
by ryder1
When I saw the 170i this past week, to me it looked like the positioning of the oil filter & cooler was an after-thought. My concern is someone tampering with it when I park at the Mall. In the showroom I didn't kneel down on the floor to look at it, but what secures that filter from someone wanting to make mischief?

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:35 am
by neotrotsky
Is someone tampering with the oil cooler system really that much of a concern? I've really never had anyone screw with the mechanical bits of a bike no matter what machine I rode, from Triumph Bonneville to Moped. Most vandals will just mar the seat or perhaps kick it over. 99% of the ignorant public will avoid any mechanical bits out of uneducated fear of anything "mechanical" looking.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:48 am
by LunaP
neotrotsky wrote:Is someone tampering with the oil cooler system really that much of a concern? I've really never had anyone screw with the mechanical bits of a bike no matter what machine I rode, from Triumph Bonneville to Moped. Most vandals will just mar the seat or perhaps kick it over. 99% of the ignorant public will avoid any mechanical bits out of uneducated fear of anything "mechanical" looking.
Yeah I have to agree. Somebody messing with it would have to have tools or screw with it and do damage by sheer brute force. That just sounds preposterous to me. Not impossible, I suppose, but still.

I don't think you have much to worry about. Other than a lower clearance.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:37 pm
by jprestonian
I'd just caution against trying to ride off sidewalk curbs onto the street. Disaster waiting to happen.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:59 pm
by viney266
jprestonian wrote:I'd just caution against trying to ride off sidewalk curbs onto the street. Disaster waiting to happen.
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^^^ My only thought as well. Though genuine did think to put a small "bash plate" under the assembly.

Yeah if anyone is going to mess with a bike they always go for the tires anyway. But don't sweat it...or still their battery ( one member here had that happen)

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:39 pm
by LunaP
viney266 wrote:
jprestonian wrote:I'd just caution against trying to ride off sidewalk curbs onto the street. Disaster waiting to happen.
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^^^ My only thought as well. Though genuine did think to put a small "bash plate" under the assembly.

Yeah if anyone is going to mess with a bike they always go for the tires anyway. But don't sweat it...or still their battery ( one member here had that happen)
That'd be me, lol.

I know people that've had their mirrors messed with. Half of it turned out to be other club members playing pranks, though. :lol:

The cooler is the reason I didn't often ride my 170 onto the sidewalk unless there was an access... the bash plate doesn't seem like much protection tbh. I was always afraid of the getting down part, exactly like you said JPres.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:48 pm
by 2wheelNsanity
Well I don't ride down dirt rodes to often due to the fact the front tire will kick up rocks that end up hitting the cooler. With that said, it does make servicing the scoot a breeze.

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:57 pm
by AWinn6889
LunaP wrote: The cooler is the reason I didn't often ride my 170 onto the sidewalk unless there was an access... the bash plate doesn't seem like much protection tbh. I was always afraid of the getting down part, exactly like you said JPres.
I find it to serve the kind of protection that the oil pan on a VR6 Jetta does, which is not much, especially when you hit it with stuff :wink:

I have seen motorcycle people check the oil filter/cooler out in the mall parking lot while I was working, only because it's more of a "what they hey-ho is that hanging down there?" than a "I'm gonna mess with whatever this thing is" sort of deal. Most will agree, no one is going to mess with it because they don't really know what it is (and I bet it would be real easy to get prints off of the oil filter!), they're more likely to just do the easy stuff if they're going to be malicious at all.

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:30 am
by viney266
I agree about the "bash plate" it isn't much but its something. Thats the only thing that worries me about the new 170 is hitting that thing. Haven't heard of anyone having issues though.