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NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:27 am
by Lokky
... is the feeling of being up at 2:30 am, rewriting a scientific paper on a topic you barely understand, with incredibly scarce and only slightly related references available.
Even worse it is the only thing standing between you and graduation after eight years of hard studies and two Major changes, yet you are literally at a loss for what to write.
Sorry for the rant I just had to throw that out there

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:42 pm
by JHScoot
It can be tough but you'll get through it. And graduate, of course.
And even if not you'll spend the rest of your life riding scooters, anyway. So you are in a win / win. The last eight years notwithstanding.
But I look forward to the day very soon when you post "I finally graduated!"
Good luck

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:18 pm
by BuddyRaton
I feel for ya.
I rode the cannonball, flew over 20 hours through 10 time zones and then had to write a scientific report at 3:00 am.
I guess the only difference is that I get paid well for it now.
Hang in there..it's worth it!
Well written!
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:37 pm
by mattgordon
your rant that is....
(you'll be fine)

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:05 pm
by Tocsik
Hang in there, Lokky!
I have twins in their Freshman years and I can sympathize with the struggles.
It may not seem that way now, but it will all be worth it in the end.
ScooterTherapy: Take 2 rides and call us in the morning!
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:22 pm
by PeteH
Hang in there, Lokky. I didn't have to write a final paper, but years back I somehow got stuffed into a highly theoretical Modern Algebra class in my last semester as my 'senior'/capstone class. Strange, as I was a Computer Science dude. I swear, there was not one single digit or numeral the entire semester, just flipnut symbology. The last week of school, I had to take an hour-long oral exam on this stuff. Fields, rings, groups, eigenvectors - much wackiness for a software/hardware guy. I was weak, my prof _knew_ I was weak, but he guided me through it and passed me anyway, and they let me graduate!
It gets easier - by contrast, the board for my orals in my MBA program chatted with me for less than 10 minutes, looked at each other, and said 'you pass - let's all go get a beer'.
Re: NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:19 pm
by BuddyRaton
Lokky wrote:... is the feeling of being up at 2:30 am, rewriting a scientific paper on a topic you barely understand, with incredibly scarce and only slightly related references available.
Even worse it is the only thing standing between you and graduation after eight years of hard studies and two Major changes, yet you are literally at a loss for what to write.
Sorry for the rant I just had to throw that out there

Eight years....High School is tough isn't it!
Sorry ...I couldn't help that one!
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:32 pm
by Wheelz
"Hey, lots of people go to school for eight years..."
"Yeah, they are called doctors...."
Hang in there Lokky it will all be over soon. Just say it with me Dr. Lokky PHD..
Re: NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:55 pm
by Lokky
BuddyRaton wrote:
Eight years....High School is tough isn't it!
Sorry ...I couldn't help that one!
Oh I wish it were highschool... changing majors twice will see you getting your bachelors degree at 26... and my Ph.D. by 31 if everything goes right... sigh.
At least the paper is done and all I have left is a trivial exam on thursday.
Re: NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:08 pm
by ericalm
The last push sometimes feels like the hardest. Congrats on being so close to the finish!
Lokky wrote:... is the feeling of being up at 2:30 am, rewriting a scientific paper on a topic you barely understand, with incredibly scarce and only slightly related references available.
This loosely describes what millions of people are doing on the Internet at 2:30 in the morning.
BuddyRaton wrote:I rode the cannonball
One more person I didn't see in SD! Are you going back to Amerivespa this year?
Re: NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:08 pm
by Edwub
Lokky wrote:... is the feeling of being up at 2:30 am, rewriting a scientific paper on a topic you barely understand, with incredibly scarce and only slightly related references available.
Even worse it is the only thing standing between you and graduation after eight years of hard studies and two Major changes, yet you are literally at a loss for what to write.
Sorry for the rant I just had to throw that out there

I hear you. This is for your BS/MS? It'll get worse during PhD.
You'll still be up at 2:30am, but you'll be at work, in your PI's office with him, and you'll be wondering if you'll still get your degree if you strangle him.
My PI likes to pull all nighters during crunch times. Not just our own papers, but for grants too. Try explaining that to your S.O. "Sorry hunny, won't be home tonight, I'm spending all night with the boss."
Lokky...do you read PhD Comics?
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
Hope you fare better than this:
Also, this is always the worst nightmare. And yet, it'll always happen.

Re: NSR - Frustration...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:32 pm
by BuddyRaton
ericalm wrote:The last push sometimes feels like the hardest. Congrats on being so close to the finish!
Lokky wrote:... is the feeling of being up at 2:30 am, rewriting a scientific paper on a topic you barely understand, with incredibly scarce and only slightly related references available.
This loosely describes what millions of people are doing on the Internet at 2:30 in the morning.
BuddyRaton wrote:I rode the cannonball
One more person I didn't see in SD! Are you going back to Amerivespa this year?
I might have passed you on my way in. I arrived at about 5:30.
No Amerivespa for me this year. I had to bail out in Flagstaff and return to Ramallah.
I've been out of country so much that now I'm shooting for "tax exile" status...330 days in a 12 month period.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:56 pm
by 2wheelNsanity
I feel your pain

. As I've stated in other posts I just finished my Masters in Biology in December. Which was a whole year longer than I wanted it to take. My advisor (who is from University of Callifornia at Davis, entomology headquarters) literally made me rewrite my thesis over 30 times, seriously

. The version set for on time (Ded. 2010), was ok'd by the commitee, however he wanted major changes and wouldn't budge. In my the last few months I was working on it for ten to twelve hours a day, my thought at the time was "Damn its only a paper on a survey of carrion beetles in a state park no one cares about" but I pushed through. Now I look back, only 5 months ago, and feel the experience made me a better writer and better yet a scientist.
I wish you the best of luck, I am still on the fence on getting my Ph.D. and it gives me hope to see others succeed.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:34 pm
by Edwub
Ooh! 2wheelNsanity, if you don't mind me asking, want to private message me your advisor? I did my undergrad degree at Davis, as well as some research with disease-spreading bugs...
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:56 pm
by Keys
BuddyRaton wrote:I guess the only difference is that I get paid well for it now.
Hang in there..it's worth it!
Sheesh...I've studied music for over 40 years now and hung in there until my fingers bleed and I'm still lucky to make $100 a night. Oh well, I still have the satisfaction of doing exactly what I want and can wake every day with a smile on my face because of it...