Page 1 of 1

Registering a Genuine Buddy in NJ

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:18 am
by nickcornaglia
I bought a Buddy Psycho from my brother-in-law with only 10 miles on it for a great deal. He bought it in Philadelphia, PA but I am registering it in New Jersey.

When I took the title to the DMV they couldn't find Genuine in their approve motorcycle lists and they sent me on my way unregistered.

They gave me the number to the DMV headquarters and they couldn't find it either and considered it unrecognized.

I asked them to look under PGO with no luck either.

So I called Philadelphia Scooters who informed me that Genuine's real company name is Motive Power industry Co, LTD.

Thought that odd but they were able to register it under that name.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:31 am
by pdxrita
Interesting! It looks like PGO is actually a brand of Motive Power Industry: http://www.alibaba.com/member/tw104333854/aboutus.html

So then Genuine is what, a brand of a brand?

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:58 am
by ericalm
Genuine is a wholly independent and separate company from PGO, which is part of Motive Power.

PGO builds the scooters. Genuine imports, distributes and markets them in the US. Genuine has also influenced upgrades to the models, changes, etc. over the years.

The Stella is built by LML, Lohia Motors. Similar deal' Genuine imports and distributes in the US, Canada and elsewhere.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:07 am
by Dooglas
Okay, that is the relationship of Genuine to its overseas manufacturers, now back to NJ. Each imported scooter or motorcycle is registered at a state DMV based on the manufacturers statement of origin. The MSO for my Buddy said nothing about Motive Power Industry. Is NJ being creative or do the MSOs now state Motive Power?

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:32 am
by Demo_Nic
Just go to AAA to have it registered. ;p

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:59 am
by roasteroo
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Vehicles ... turers.pdf


Look under motive power. In red it says DNA genuine.

Nj shouldn't give you a problem. That list goes by vin.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:58 am
by nickcornaglia
That's the list they kept looking on but couldn't find "dba Genuine". I guess they couldn't search PDFs they were just searching alphabetically and who would think to look for GENUINE under M. (By the way...DBA stands for Doing Business As).

I didn't have this list when I was at the DMV not did I ever dream I'd need it. And they don't show it to you. I assumed they would know what that scooter was when I brought the title there.

I posted this to help the next guy trying to figure this out. It's easy for you to point it out after searching for the info as it was or me. You act like I should have known this list even existed before walking in to the DMV.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:40 pm
by pdxrita
Dooglas wrote:Okay, that is the relationship of Genuine to its overseas manufacturers, now back to NJ. Each imported scooter or motorcycle is registered at a state DMV based on the manufacturers statement of origin. The MSO for my Buddy said nothing about Motive Power Industry. Is NJ being creative or do the MSOs now state Motive Power?
It seems like there's a lot of confusion around all of this. My Italia was registered as a Genuine. When I registered my new Buddy 125, they put it in as a PGO.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:32 pm
by nickcornaglia
I'm sure different states have it entered in in their own way. PGO wasn't an option in NJ either.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:28 pm
by roasteroo
SORRY, just tryin to help.

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:11 pm
by agrogod
roasteroo wrote:SORRY, just tryin to help.
NCIS Gibbs wrote:"Don't apologize, its a sign of weakness"
Actually your PDF link is quite helpful, that's one more piece of info for my arsenal of knowledge.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:40 pm
by ddepr1217
Funny. Just looked at my registration and it says PGO 2012 MC. Got it registered in the Eatontown MVC. No problem at all.

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:10 pm
by nickcornaglia
Thats strange too as PGO isn't anywhere on the list. I did ask is PGO was there at the DMV. Seems they do whatever try want as my title reads 2012 GEN BUD 125. I didn't even want to shake things up anymore by mentioning "Psycho".