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12v outlet not working
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:27 pm
by redcass
My 12v outlet is not working, don't know if it ever did. I've tried my Gerbing heated gloves, my cell charger, and my battery tender, and none work. I can't find any problems with the 2 fuses or with the wire connections.
Any ideas?
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:10 pm
by vaderscoot
all else fails take it to the dealer
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:41 pm
by weaseltamer
redcass please tell us more about the heated gloves... they sound awesome.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:23 pm
by sparkle motion
Oh what a bummer, redcass. I just ordered my gerbing's heated gloves today. my only worry was that they wouldn't fit (got them off ebay, used once), now I'm nervous same thing will happen to me. Let us know how it goes.
~April
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:47 pm
by hcstrider
Is it possible that you blew the fuse on the 12V outlet?
I don't know the specifications of your Gerbing's heated gloves but I did quick review of the heated gloves on Gerbing's WEB page and the 5 types of gloves that I saw all drew a current of 2.2 amps. I believe that this would blow the Buddy's fuse for the 12V outlet because I think that the 12V outlet fuse is only 1 amp.
Here is where Corsair said the fuse is located at so that you can check it:
it's a very small black box/case near the horn marked "1A". it has a snap you have to open and the fuse is inside. if you follow the wires from the port you should see it.
Wayne
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:26 pm
by hcstrider
I re-read your original post and saw that you have already checked the fuses so I guess that my advise above is not good.
Wayne
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:29 pm
by redcass
hcstrider wrote:I re-read your original post and saw that you have already checked the fuses so I guess that my advise above is not good.
Wayne
And when I asked the service dept at Scooterworks about whether I could use these gloves, they said it wouldn't be a problem. But clearly, something's not working.
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:01 pm
by robtaylor
sounds like something for which that warranty can come in handy.
although it's easy for me to say take it back to the dealer for repair because my dealer is 1.5 miles away
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:10 pm
by vaderscoot
robonz23 wrote:sounds like something for which that warranty can come in handy.
although it's easy for me to say take it back to the dealer for repair because my dealer is 1.5 miles away
i know what you mean my dealer is less than a mile from my place

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:45 pm
by redcass
vaderscoot wrote:robonz23 wrote:sounds like something for which that warranty can come in handy.
although it's easy for me to say take it back to the dealer for repair because my dealer is 1.5 miles away
i know what you mean my dealer is less than a mile from my place

Geez, I'm jealous. I have over an hour long ride to the nearest dealer.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:15 pm
by vaderscoot
wheres your dealer? mines in manteno il
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:23 pm
by jetboy
Do you know anyone handy with a multimeter? Someone with a hobbyist-level understanding of how to measure whether or not you are getting 12v out of the socket should be able to help. Or perhaps you could find someone with a 12v cell-phone charger to plug their phone in and see if it is working. That way you could eliminate the gloves as the issue.
Just some thoughts.
-jetboy
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:35 pm
by ryder1
Someone with a cellphone could damage their phone if it is something with the electircal wiring not working.
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:02 pm
by redcass
vaderscoot wrote:wheres your dealer? mines in manteno il
The nearest dealer is in Champaign, but I bought my Italia up at Scooterworks.
Re: 12v outlet not working
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:28 pm
by Dooglas
redcass wrote:My 12v outlet is not working, don't know if it ever did. I've tried my Gerbing heated gloves, my cell charger, and my battery tender, and none work. I can't find any problems with the 2 fuses or with the wire connections.
Gosh, a pair of 2.2 A heated gloves should have blown the 1 A fuse. Did you try replacing the fuse for the 12 V outlet whether it looked okay to you or not?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:37 am
by sparkle motion
Redcass, did you get the charger situation sorted out. i rec'd my Gerbing gloves and am dying to try them, but just realized I need to buy the adapter? Is this the adapter you bought?
http://www.motosport.com/harley/product ... dId=508569
Re: 12v outlet not working
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:36 pm
by redcass
Dooglas wrote:Gosh, a pair of 2.2 A heated gloves should have blown the 1 A fuse. Did you try replacing the fuse for the 12 V outlet whether it looked okay to you or not?
Yes, upon further inspection (i.e. different fuse), it appears blown. I'm going to pick up another fuse today and see if that fixes it.
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:39 pm
by redcass
sparkle motion wrote:Redcass, did you get the charger situation sorted out. i rec'd my Gerbing gloves and am dying to try them, but just realized I need to buy the adapter?
Alas, no it's not sorted out in a good way.

I spoke to the service mgr at Scooterworks who told me I can't use the Gerbing gloves with my Italia--that contradicts what I had been told previously by a non-manager service person. So I returned the Gerbings and ordered a pair of First Gear Dakotas:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/3/ ... loves.aspx
1amp 32volt fuses hard to find
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:16 pm
by redcass
I had a heck of a time trying to find a 1A fuse to replace the blown one (in the little box to the left of the horn). Autozone, Advance, Napa, RadioShack, and Sears don't carry anything that small, and scooterworks was all out.
After a long online search, I found Digi-Key (
http://www.digikey.com/) where I could order 5 fuses for like a dollar, plus a $5 handling fee for such a small order. Oh well, at least I found the fuses.
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:43 pm
by hcstrider
Thank you for the information. This weekend I was going to look for the 12V outlet’s 1 Amp fuse box so that I would know where it is located at but you saved me some work. Now I have more time to mulch leaves and clean the leaves out of my gutters.

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:36 am
by redcass
hcstrider wrote:Thank you for the information. This weekend I was going to look for the 12V outlet’s 1 Amp fuse box so that I would know where it is located at but you saved me some work. Now I have more time to mulch leaves and clean the leaves out of my gutters.

Could I talk you into coming over and cleaning out my gutters?

My lawn is a mess, I sure hope the weather holds out so I can rake up all that craziness.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:57 am
by ryder1
redcass, what did you enter to find the correct fuse?
I entered 1A fuse but it brought up other options to choose to narrow it down. I'm going to bookmark for future reference.
Thanks
Do the Women's Dakota gloves keep your fingers warm?
They sent me men's so kept the Fargo gloves but below 50 degrees my fingers get cold. Wish I had ordered a size larger so the silk liners would fit inside and not be as tight.
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:21 pm
by redcass
ryder1 wrote:redcass, what did you enter to find the correct fuse?
Do the Women's Dakota gloves keep your fingers warm?
I can't remember exactly what worked, but it was some combination of:
blade-type fuse 1a 1amp 32v
It took me a really long time to find something.
The Dakota gloves are pretty good, but not as warm as the Gerbings were (even without the heat function on). I wish the gauntlets were a little longer, and I actually don't love the wiperblade on the left index finger. They are a little bit big though, so I might try some silk liners. Do you know where I could find some of those?
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:51 pm
by ryder1
I ordered mine from motorcycle superstore when I ordered the Cortech Sport Saddlebags.
I haven't used the liner with the Fargo gloves yet; I'm still kinda breaking in the leather glove. I'm hoping they will fit better inside the glove as the leather loosens up--it is a little tight fit right now. I ordered Large (same size as my glove but the liners are too long in the fingers-otherwise they are okay--not sure if a medium would have been better). If I place another order, I might order the mediums to see if that makes a difference. Not sure how they are suppose to fit--like a second skin or a little loose as not to constrict.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/ ... Liner.aspx
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:28 pm
by vitaminC
redcass wrote:They are a little bit big though, so I might try some silk liners. Do you know where I could find some of those?
Try a place like REI or some other sporting goods-type store.
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:34 am
by scullyfu
redcass wrote:I spoke to the service mgr at Scooterworks who told me I can't use the Gerbing gloves with my Italia--that contradicts what I had been told previously by a non-manager service person.
is there something special about the italia? in other words, could you use the gerbings with a red, black, orange, creme, or pink buddy?

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:52 am
by hcstrider
scullyfu wrote:
is there something special about the italia? in other words, could you use the gerbings with a red, black, orange, creme, or pink buddy?

There is nothing special about the Italia, all of the Buddy's would have the same problem. According to Gerbing's WEB page the Gerbing's heated gloves draw a current of 2.2 amps. This would blow the Buddy's fuse for the 12V outlet because the 12V outlet fuse is only 1 amp.
Wayne
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:34 pm
by BuddyRaton
Im STILL trying to find the outlet on mine!

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:41 pm
by redcass
BuddyRaton wrote:Im STILL trying to find the outlet on mine!

Ha!
I got the fuses from Digi-Key, and now my outlet works--I checked it with my cell charger.
If anybody out there needs a 1amp fuse, let me know. I've got 4 extra, and no plans to ever again try plugging in something crazy like heated gloves!

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:31 am
by jetboy
Oh save the fuses. You know, the second you send 'em off to someone, it'll blow again. They don't take up much space.
-jetboy
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:08 pm
by redcass
jetboy wrote:Oh save the fuses. You know, the second you send 'em off to someone, it'll blow again. They don't take up much space.
-jetboy
Yeah, I feel like it's Murphy's law, I'll only blow the fuse if I send them away, but if I keep them, the fuse will be fine. Hm, that's a good reason to keep 'em, isn't it?
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:51 pm
by Raisin Hell
redcass wrote:sparkle motion wrote:Redcass, did you get the charger situation sorted out. i rec'd my Gerbing gloves and am dying to try them, but just realized I need to buy the adapter?
Alas, no it's not sorted out in a good way.

I spoke to the service mgr at Scooterworks who told me I can't use the Gerbing gloves with my Italia--that contradicts what I had been told previously by a non-manager service person. So I returned the Gerbings and ordered a pair of First Gear Dakotas:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/3/ ... loves.aspx
Any idea which gloves would work for men?
Or can we use the Gerbing battery harness to hook up directly to the battery. I wonder if the Buddy 50's battery is up to the task, though.
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 2:37 am
by redcass
Raisin Hell wrote:Any idea which gloves would work for men?
Or can we use the Gerbing battery harness to hook up directly to the battery. I wonder if the Buddy 50's battery is up to the task, though.
Both are good questions, but unfortunately I have no answers. It seems that a direct hookup could work, since the outlet fuse was the problem, but I didn't want to bother with it. Since we've been getting snow/ice, I haven't ridden, but about a week ago I was okay, just chilly fingers.