AutoStella - 125, not 150cc

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:28 pm

With the news that the auto Stella will be a direct import of the LML 125, and not the 150cc as was thought, it leads me to the question of why -

I saw a graphic of an automatic LML 125 that showed an engine hung at an extreme angle in the body. I am guessing that there is no room for an additional 25cc's. Is it really that big of a difference?

Meaning, a BBK would not work either?

Robbie · Post by **Robbie** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:57 pm

The engine is at a rather extreme angle and the centerline is rather high in the chassis.
It is also mounted on the left side.
You'll also note there are several additional cooling air paths for the engine.
You will be able to see two air inlets under the floorboard towards the front.
Look at the LML Italia site for some fairly detailed photos.

According the folks at Scooterworks, the test mule they were riding for a few weeks was significantly faster than the 150 4t manual from an acceleration standpoint.........most likely related to the variator/final drive gearing combination.

The European Auto has a ECM that moniters engine temperature, throttle position, and a couple other things lost in my memory.

Rob

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:04 pm

I see reviews online claiming top speeds of 60mph, GPS indicated.

Possibly price to be at or less than 3k....

It's looking good for me...

I can see a 2 stroke Stella and a Star in my stable one day.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:09 pm

Scootering Magagine described the LML as 'a very decent tool for traffic-heavy commuting work'. In the test, the Star Automatic achieved a 'thoroughly respectable 76.5mpg despite being held full throttle almost permanently.'

They go on to say 'that the Star Auto is 'the best scooter that the Indian firm has built so far, certainly for urban use.'

BeefSupreme · Post by **BeefSupreme** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:46 pm

I was looking at a french review yesterday claiming it had 11hp. So i'm guessing they're squeezing all they can out of that 125 engine, I think the buddy gets 9.5ish? I'm curious to test drive one when they come out, i'd love an steel body with a cvt, damn the "purists".

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:01 pm

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:12 pm

Interesting - the CVT is made by Adler - an Italian company... so we have...

Italian styling,
Italian transmission,
Italian tooling.

Can you tell this is a slow work today today for me?

BeefSupreme · Post by **BeefSupreme** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:37 pm

Have you looked at these? Somewhat the culmination of the Genuine Unicorn Cruiser everybody's been talking about. 250-300cc, classic metal bodied styling, front rear disc, cvt. Wowsers! http://www.scomadi.co.uk

slow work day here too.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:00 pm

Perfection!

Not for the masses...

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:03 pm

Wondering where the gas tank is?

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BeefSupreme · Post by **BeefSupreme** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:14 pm

[quote="RoaringTodd"]Wondering where the gas tank is?

I'm guessing all the air intakes are on the left side, that's what I thought was on the right side, but I guess that big black thing could be the tank, under the right cowl.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:18 pm

Meaning -

It would need a fuel pump to deliver fuel from the bottom of the tank to the carb?

That's a good guess, I don't know....
If you look under the black box, do you see a clear fuel line?

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:19 pm

Also - personally I would ditch the fake tire cover on mine if the cowl covers up the battery. I think it takes away from the overall appearace...

At worse, paint it 100% black.

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:23 pm

BeefSupreme wrote:Have you looked at these? Somewhat the culmination of the Genuine Unicorn Cruiser everybody's been talking about. 250-300cc, classic metal bodied styling, front rear disc, cvt. Wowsers! http://www.scomadi.co.uk

Mechanically a Vespa GTS that looks like a plastic bodied Lambretta. That is either really good, or really bad - depending on your point of view.

scootERIK · Post by **scootERIK** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:45 pm

RoaringTodd wrote:Wondering where the gas tank is?

Maybe the gas tank is missing in the picture you posted.

It looks like the gas tank might be in the same place. In the picture I circled where it looks like the tank is.

ravenlore · Post by **ravenlore** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:02 pm

If it can carry my backside at a legit 50ish, with or without modification, then i'm still in.

RoaringTodd · Post by **RoaringTodd** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:17 pm

scootERIK wrote:
RoaringTodd wrote:Wondering where the gas tank is?
Maybe the gas tank is missing in the picture you posted.

It looks like the gas tank might be in the same place. In the picture I circled where it looks like the tank is.

Looks kinda small. I read somewhere the tank holds 7L. My guess, is that the fuel cap on the seat feeds directly down to the tank suggested by BeefSupreme... Look at the first picture I posted - It looks like the valve cover is on that black hump in the area you circled.

Raven - I lived in MPLS for 5 years by Loring Square. Good memories.

scootERIK · Post by **scootERIK** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:52 pm

As I look harder at the pictures that would be a tiny tank, so it might just be a fake tank to cover the motor.

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:55 pm

Gas tank is listed at "9.5 litres (including 2 litres reserve)". That's 2.5 gallons plus 1/2 gallon reserve.

ravenlore · Post by **ravenlore** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:22 pm

RoaringTodd wrote:
scootERIK wrote:
RoaringTodd wrote:Wondering where the gas tank is?
Maybe the gas tank is missing in the picture you posted.

It looks like the gas tank might be in the same place. In the picture I circled where it looks like the tank is.
Looks kinda small. I read somewhere the tank holds 7L. My guess, is that the fuel cap on the seat feeds directly down to the tank suggested by BeefSupreme... Look at the first picture I posted - It looks like the valve cover is on that black hump in the area you circled.

Raven - I lived in MPLS for 5 years by Loring Square. Good memories.

Ooh, Loring Park/Lowry Hill are such awesome neighborhoods!

(i live right by Lakewood Cemetary)