Just might stay with my buddy

NeoGenesisMax · Post by **NeoGenesisMax** » Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:57 pm

Has anyone seen this? Does anyone have any experience with Hoca parts?

http://www.partsforscooters.com/169-210_Power_Pack

lovemysan · Post by **lovemysan** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:13 am

The 72cc top end is probably comparable to a prima or ncy kit. I don't like those cheap variators or the generic chinese carbs. The buddy variator is actually a nice quality variator. The clutch is good too. I'd recommend you start with a pipe and tune the transmission for a nice hole shot. Leo Vince makes some good pipes for the money.

NeoGenesisMax · Post by **NeoGenesisMax** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:10 pm

Ok almost everything you said seems like you pukled it out of your ass. Prima 70cc kits are lower end and Hoca's is much better with larger ports. Although id rather have their ceramic and nikasil kit. None of the parts are chinese or cheap. That carb looks exactly like the malossi and ncy stuff I see and is priced similarly. So tell me how its bad? Where you get the idea the parts are cheap is beyond me when you look them up individually they are comparable to Malossi, Ncy, Polini, etc..... I would like to know how you came to that conclution. I have heard Leo Vince are good but its never backed by numbers or facts. The simple truth is leo vince pipes look just like all the others so the only why to know is to ride with several different pipes or to have some stats somwhere. Are you speaking from experiance and what where those exoeriences or are you just saying opinions?

lovemysan · Post by **lovemysan** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:49 pm

I don't understand your hostility. If you want to pay $500 for a pile of generic chinese parts don't stop on my account. You could piece that kit together for less. I doubt you'll be happy with the tune of the transmission as supplied. I also doubt that its made as well as the PGO stuff currently in your bike. Have fun jetting that carb and or finding the correct needle to tune the midrange. Why would anyone pay $149 for a hoca 72cc kit is beyond me. You can buy a malossi iron kit for $200. Or Top trophy for around $160. And what about that pipe its just another clone of who knows what. Where is the dyno sheet for it? Why don't you try it and let us know.

I'm not against all chinese parts. I've purchased plenty of NCY stuff and its generally pretty good.