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What scoot to commute? Help, please.

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:42 pm
by KCScooterDude
Haven't been on the forums for a while. Thanks to an anticipated windfall, I'm considering buying a new scooter.

Curious as to anyone's thoughts about the appropriateness of a Stella or Blur 220i as a commuter bike. I commute two days a week 45-miles each way, half on city streets and half on rural two-lane that is almost trafficless (50-60 mph would be just fine). The rest of the time I'm in town. I put about 300 miles a week on my car. I'm currently scoot less, having sold my Blur 150 last summer. I need to carry a backpack (or stow that much gear) with a Macbook and iPad.

I know a lot of you commute. Of course because of the long commute I'm leaning toward the larger displacement. More concerned with wheel size and dependability.

Also looking at:
Honda PCX 150
Honda Forza
Honda Silverwing
Vespa LX 150
Vespa GTS 300
Suzuki Burgman 200, 400, 650.

Thanks for your input.

I also posted a similar question on MV.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:28 am
by Syd
Without any personal experience with it I think that's expecting too much out of the Stella. I'm sure the Blur would work fine, if the riding position is comfy.

Do you have an SYM dealer nearby? If so I would add the SYM HD200 to your list' it's a great scoot.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:10 am
by wheelbender6
If the terrain is flat, a 200cc scoot should work. Go with a 250 or be if its hilly.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:57 am
by skully93
I have a 40 mile commute a couple times a week. at 55-60 the smaller scoots get 'fatiguing' and run out of gas at the end. Get a slightly larger, 200-350ccc with larger tires, which will make the longer commute more manageable.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:29 am
by Syd
And if you're thinking of the GTS 300, add the BV350 to your list too. It's a monster (in a good way).

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:51 am
by michelle_7728
When ever I am without a carpool buddy, and it's a nice day, I ride my Aprilia Scrabeo 500ie. If you are used to a smaller scooter, this really isn't much of a leap...especially if I can handle it...being female, 5'4" and in my early 50s. :) ...and it's one of the few bigger scooters that has a non-maxi look to it.

It's powerful enough to go as fast as you want, yet enjoyable on slower roads as well.

The tank is plenty big enough to get you there and back a couple of times, and there is lots of storage under the seat (though not big enough for my Scorpion modular helmet...but I have a large matching top case so it doesn't matter).

You can generally pick one up fairly inexpensively as well.

Re: What scoot to commute? Help, please.

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:07 pm
by skipper20
KCScooterDude wrote:Haven't been on the forums for a while. Thanks to an anticipated windfall, I'm considering buying a new scooter.

Curious as to anyone's thoughts about the appropriateness of a Stella or Blur 220i as a commuter bike. I commute two days a week 45-miles each way, half on city streets and half on rural two-lane that is almost trafficless (50-60 mph would be just fine). The rest of the time I'm in town. I put about 300 miles a week on my car. I'm currently scoot less, having sold my Blur 150 last summer. I need to carry a backpack (or stow that much gear) with a Macbook and iPad.

I know a lot of you commute. Of course because of the long commute I'm leaning toward the larger displacement. More concerned with wheel size and dependability.

Also looking at:
Honda PCX 150
Honda Forza
Honda Silverwing
Vespa LX 150
Vespa GTS 300
Suzuki Burgman 200, 400, 650.

Thanks for your input.

I also posted a similar question on MV.
At 45 miles each way, I'd go with the larger wheeled Blur 220i.

Bill in Seattle but wintering in Arizona
'12 170i Italia (AZ scooter)
'11 220i Blur
'08 250i Sport City

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:58 am
by Howardr
If money is no object, go with the Vespa 300 GTS.

However, for great initial cost plus lower cost of maintenance plus good looks and loads of fun, the PCX 150 is the bike you want.

Howard

No vote for Stella

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:56 am
by toot
Go for a large Vespa 200 -300 or a large wheeled scooter.. Blur is a specific scooter for sport riding roads not a touring scooter... Maybe a touring scooter that can give you the storage ability and the power when you need it, and a comfortable ride for the long commute. Stella is a wonderful classic ride like a classic car for the weekend and shorter commute. I saw that there is a new 200 Burgman that looks really appealing.. BUT I have too many toys. Good luck in what ever you get and Please Ride Safe always.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:54 am
by sc00ter
Go look, sit and touch. Fit and feel are the most important. If you plan on letting someone else do the service work take that into consideration also. Everyone will tell you there is no replacement for displacement. The roads you travel on your commute will also factor this in for your final choice. Good luck and choose well.

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:29 pm
by BuddyRaton
How much do you have to carry?

I used to do a 70 mile per day round trip commuting. I did it on a Burgman 650 Ex and then a BMW C650GT.

I would suggest the larger displacement scooters...400 cc minimum. You will be racking up miles. Commuting on my BMW I put 10,000 miles on in 7 months. Also consider weather protection...how is the air flow? Commuting you ride in all types of weather conditions.

I think the Swing, the Burgman 400, and the BMW are your best bets. Why not the Burg 650? The ECVT has known problems. My clutch bearing went out at 24K miles ($3,000 covered under extended) and started acting up again at 37K miles...not acceptable.

Keep us updated!

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:36 am
by jrsjr
BuddyRaton wrote:I think the Swing, the Burgman 400, and the BMW are your best bets. Why not the Burg 650? The ECVT has known problems. My clutch bearing went out at 24K miles ($3,000 covered under extended) and started acting up again at 37K miles...not acceptable.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. And Agreed. To which I can only add that used 2003 Silver Wings are going for ridiculously low prices, often about the same as a used Buddy! :shock: I know, it's hard to believe but it's true. If you're just going to use the heck out of it commuting, you want it to be cheap, reliable, fast, and comfy and the Swing does all those things easily.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:37 am
by Syd
jrsjr wrote:
BuddyRaton wrote:I think the Swing, the Burgman 400, and the BMW are your best bets. Why not the Burg 650? The ECVT has known problems. My clutch bearing went out at 24K miles ($3,000 covered under extended) and started acting up again at 37K miles...not acceptable.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. And Agreed. To which I can only add that used 2003 Silver Wings are going for ridiculously low prices, often about the same as a used Buddy! :shock: I know, it's hard to believe but it's true. If you're just going to use the heck out of it commuting, you want it to be cheap, reliable, fast, and comfy and the Swing does all those things easily.
Why, when somebody mentions the Silverwing (Swing), do I think of Wayne's World? :)

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:26 am
by jrsjr
Syd wrote:Why, when somebody mentions the Silverwing (Schwing), do I think of Wayne's World? :)
There, I fixed that for you. :twisted:

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:28 pm
by DennisD
Howardr wrote:If money is no object, go with the Vespa 300 GTS.

However, for great initial cost plus lower cost of maintenance plus good looks and loads of fun, the PCX 150 is the bike you want.

Howard
For dependability and their established parts and service network, Honda is tough to equal, much less beat.

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:42 pm
by BuddyRaton
jrsjr wrote:
BuddyRaton wrote:I think the Swing, the Burgman 400, and the BMW are your best bets. Why not the Burg 650? The ECVT has known problems. My clutch bearing went out at 24K miles ($3,000 covered under extended) and started acting up again at 37K miles...not acceptable.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. And Agreed. To which I can only add that used 2003 Silver Wings are going for ridiculously low prices, often about the same as a used Buddy! :shock: I know, it's hard to believe but it's true. If you're just going to use the heck out of it commuting, you want it to be cheap, reliable, fast, and comfy and the Swing does all those things easily.
I will say that the Swing has never done much for me...but everyone I have spoken to that has one loves it.