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Anyone heard of this Taiwanese Scooter

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:20 pm
by pcbikedude
This CL posting caught my eyes because he says that these "cheap" scooters are Taiwanese. But I never heard of this brand:
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/mcy/721235509.html

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What's a bit compelling is that they are 2 stroke 49cc and legal in CA. I thought the Genuine Rattler was the only 2 stroke scooter that is legal to sell new in CA?

I did try to Google the brand and nothing comes up. Personally, I would never throw money at this unless I knew there was dealer support.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:14 pm
by FA-Q
I don't live in California (wish I did) but I'm sure the Buddy 50, Yamaha Zoomer, TGB's, Piaggios, Kymco's and many other 2T 50's are in California. I know that any 2t in Canada has to pass California emissions testing.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:28 pm
by pcbikedude
FA-Q wrote:I don't live in California (wish I did) but I'm sure the Buddy 50, Yamaha Zoomer, TGB's, Piaggios, Kymco's and many other 2T 50's are in California. I know that any 2t in Canada has to pass California emissions testing.
The last year that 2T 50cc scooters were brought into CA was 2006. Most manufacturers didn't sell enough of these to justify the cost to become CARB certified. Only Genuine dared with the Rattler.

You can still find some new 2 strokes scooters in CA but they are all branded at 2006 models. Well, you probably could have found them a few months ago before gas prices went above $4/gal.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:18 pm
by BGK
pcbikedude wrote: The last year that 2T 50cc scooters were brought into CA was 2006. Most manufacturers didn't sell enough of these to justify the cost to become CARB certified. Only Genuine dared with the Rattler.

You can still find some new 2 strokes scooters in CA but they are all branded at 2006 models. Well, you probably could have found them a few months ago before gas prices went above $4/gal.
I don't think that's true. NoHo Scooters sells the kymco People 50 and all the Genuine 50 and 110 two stroke bikes.

Her Chee is Adly. http://usa.adlymoto.com/

Big Ass Motors in LA swears by the new Lambettas (rebadged Adlys), though they swear by some other less desirable products as well. But I'd trust their experience.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:47 pm
by illnoise
Yep, HerChees are Adlys. Adly is Taiwanese, but they have factories in mainland China.

I only briefly test-rode the Lambretta, and I've looked over a few Adlys, and I'd say the quality isn't on par with Genuine or Kymco, but they're better than the average no-name Chinese scooter.

Bb.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:56 pm
by ericalm
There's no ban on 2-stroke scoots in CA and there never has been. There are new 2-strokes being sold here, such as the Rattler 110, which is a 2007 model.

The reason that many 2-strokes were not sold here (or stopped being sold here) was that they didn't meet CARB emissions and other requirements.

Even the '07/'08 Stellas could be made legal here with some modifications.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:12 pm
by voodoosix
Adly actually makes some nice bikes and ATVs, the US models have always been plagued with horrible looking paint/graphics. looks like theyve addressed that issue for the newest models. the "Lambretta" models looked way better since they didnt have the decals as the Adly versions.

id put them at least on equal ground quality wise with PGO, although Genuine is obviously the better importer vs Adly USA, as their main interest is the ATVs and have to sell the scoots to get them.

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not too shabby for $2250, with ft & rr disc brakes, oil cooled 4 valve engine and faster than the Blur.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:29 pm
by ericalm
voodoosix wrote:id put them at least on equal ground quality wise with PGO, although Genuine is obviously the better importer vs Adly USA, as their main interest is the ATVs and have to sell the scoots to get them
As I mentioned elsewhere, I'd heard (from a technician/mechanic) that the Adly Lambrettas have some mechanical problems and aren't as reliable as the Buddy. Purely hearsay and I have no experience with them.

I've seen them, though, and think they're pretty goofy lookin'.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:38 pm
by MikieTaps
can you buy a stella out of state, or used in state and register it in CA or are they not registerable?

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:14 am
by ericalm
MikieTaps wrote:can you buy a stella out of state, or used in state and register it in CA or are they not registerable?
You can bring in and register any scoot that's 3 or more model years old (as most Stellas are now) or which have 7500+ miles on the odometer.

There are a lot of CA Stellas which had 7501 miles when registered. Imagine that!

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:39 am
by Eazy
ericalm wrote:
voodoosix wrote:id put them at least on equal ground quality wise with PGO, although Genuine is obviously the better importer vs Adly USA, as their main interest is the ATVs and have to sell the scoots to get them
As I mentioned elsewhere, I'd heard (from a technician/mechanic) that the Adly Lambrettas have some mechanical problems and aren't as reliable as the Buddy. Purely hearsay and I have no experience with them.

I've seen them, though, and think they're pretty goofy lookin'.
The adly lambrettas are not lambrettas.

They're junk. Pieces of junk.

They keep trying to get the dealership I do service for to carry them, the only thing they could come up with that separates lambretta and adly is "the lambrettas have better paint"

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:07 am
by voodoosix
Eazy wrote:
The adly lambrettas are not lambrettas.

well no duh. id buy one just to irk the classic snobs. i dont care if they called it a Studebaker- its a decent bike. ive heard nothing bad from any owners and the only people who bag them are only upset by the name. :cry:

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:36 pm
by pcbikedude
voodoosix wrote: well no duh. id buy one just to irk the classic snobs. i dont care if they called it a Studebaker- its a decent bike. ive heard nothing bad from any owners and the only people who bag them are only upset by the name. :cry:
Totally agree. I've not heard anything bad from owner of the new lammy. However, those classic guys are constantly fixing theirs. :P

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:07 pm
by pcbikedude
ericalm wrote:Even the '07/'08 Stellas could be made legal here with some modifications.
You got the Stella bug bad Eric? I think you need to go over to Arizona :shock: , buy one, put it in your garage on a jack and hire some kid to spin the front tire until it gets to 7501. 8)

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:17 pm
by illnoise
If the lambrettas have better paint, the Adlys must be pretty bad, because the paint on the lambretta I rode was pretty bad. it might have been a prototype, though.

I agree, though, the Adlys underneath the Lambretta sticker are decent bikes, and at least the pricing is relatively sane. I just really don't like that they're called Lambrettas, if they'd been creative and rebranded them as something fresh, I'd be totally fine with them.

Buyer beware: Everything said isn't always true...

Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:26 pm
by Drumwoulf
Best to remember; just because a dealer says a scoot will pass CARB standards doesn't mean it will! There are plenty of horror stories of people buying mail order scoots, only to find they couldn't license them!

On an odd brand scoot I'd get it in writing from the seller that if it's not legal on the streets, it's fully returnable!