Noob question: MPG Stella vs Buddy

Swordsman · Post by **Swordsman** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:21 am

Okay, riddle me this: HOW in the world does the 150cc Stella achieve a claimed 140 mpg vs the 150cc Buddy only getting 90 mpg???? Engine is the same size...?

~SM

viney266 · Post by **viney266** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:01 am

Simple. 4 speed with a clutch versus a CVT.

I have heard of guys actually getting 100MPG real world with the 4t stellas

Post by **ericalm** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:10 am

140MPG on a Stella in real world riding is unlikely. 100 is definitely possible. When I bothered keeping track, I was getting around 100. Now, probably less as I ride a bit harder.

90MPG is possible on a Buddy 125. A bit lower is more common.

It's not all manual vs. CVT. The Stella also has lower emissions. But a stock Stella doesn't perform like a Buddy. All of the Stella's settings are dialed in for maximum fuel efficiency. It'll be slower off the line and have lower top speed.

Rail 50 · Post by **Rail 50** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:17 pm

I can agree with Eric.. I am getting 107 mpg with the Stella and my Chinascoot is faster. However, I get more positive comments about the Stella.

Swordsman · Post by **Swordsman** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

ericalm wrote:140MPG on a Stella in real world riding is unlikely. 100 is definitely possible. When I bothered keeping track, I was getting around 100. Now, probably less as I ride a bit harder.

90MPG is possible on a Buddy 125. A bit lower is more common.

It's not all manual vs. CVT. The Stella also has lower emissions. But a stock Stella doesn't perform like a Buddy. All of the Stella's settings are dialed in for maximum fuel efficiency. It'll be slower off the line and have lower top speed.

Ah, I wondered if that might be the case. Thanks for the info!
A fellow Uralista that lives near me has a red 2 stroke Stella. I've sat on it and fired it up... neat little machines! I love the hidden spare tire.

~SM

SkutiJo · Post by **SkutiJo** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:14 pm

Keep in mind, too, guys - the EPA testing is done in fixed gears, with almost no loss.

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:43 pm

Indeed. EPA for cars is also going to be much different than real-world.

I've always wondered why CVTs are less fuel efficient than same-displacement manuals. That seems counterintuitive to me. You "waste" a lot of revs—and, it would seem to me, fuel—on a shifty, especially in stop-start city riding. There is a lot of lost power in a CVT, though, so you may need more fuel to get an equivalent amount of power output. Wait, I may have just explained this to myself…

Spiffy · Post by **Spiffy** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:47 am

I was getting 120 mpg on my 2012 Stella when I was riding super easy on it during the break-in period... with the crappy stock spark plug...

now that I ride it like it wants to be rode I only get about 80-90 mpg out of it...

and it's always been a mix of city and highway...

viney266 · Post by **viney266** » Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:16 am

ericalm wrote: Wait, I may have just explained this to myself…

^^^ Yeah, I do that sometimes,too !