NOT Thinking of selling my brand new Stella Auto ANYMORE

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:24 am

I know, I just shared here how excited I am to finally have a scooter like I have wanted for many years...

I just have this deep feeling that it is not a good idea to be a part of the dangerous two-wheeled world. Call me chicken, but I just think it is not the wisest decision to venture out there...My wife is stunned at my change of heart.

I wonder what the best way to sell it would be? It only has 60 miles on it and is as flawless as when I got it a month ago.

Anybody know anyone who has ever got one and then changed their minds like that?

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:30 am

Did you start out your interest in scooters by taking the Motorcycle Safety Foundation basic course? f not, you should do a minor reset and do that step next. You will gain skill and confidence - or you may decide that two-wheelers aren't for you. I want to reassure you that this loss of confidence among new riders when they feel they lack skill is not at all uncommon. I suspect we have all been there once or twice.

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:41 am

Thanks, Dooglas, for the encouragement.

I am scheduled for the safety class starting tomorrow. I don't think I lack confidence. When I am riding, I have no thoughts that it is difficult at all, but I am certainly not overconfident. In fact I worry that I will get overconfident.

I have been reading a lot lately on this forum and other places and I am just very impressed that it is incredibly dangerous to ride. One thread here in particular told about a guy who was making a simple turn and slipped in a puddle and everybody commented that going down was inevitable and that is was a matter of "when" not "If" you go down.

I am not into playing Russian Roulette. I am thinking that maybe the smart thing to do is cut my losses before I become a statistic. I am not usually an overly dramatic and fearful person, but I also like to be smart.

I am also figuring that when I take that safety class, I will be even more concerned because I am sure they are going to tell me about all the bad things that can happen out there.

Like I told my wife when I expressed these concerns to her today: I am not looking for her to tell me, "Oh, don't worry, it will be all right."

Elder Scoot · Post by **Elder Scoot** » Thu May 15, 2014 1:48 am

All of us in this sport, activity, or whatever you want to call it share a common trait of denial. What we do is dangerous. We rationalize and rationalize but the fact remains is what we do is dangerous.

O.K. now I'm over that. I love the feeling of riding a PTW vehicle. Nothing else compares to it. I've been injured on a bike and might likely be injured again. But then, I've had a number of friends die from war, disease and bad judgment that had nothing to do with scooters. Everything we do is a calculated tradeoff and we make decisions based upon what we are willing to risk. You need to decide how you want to make that call. Period. There is no loss of respect from me and I am sure others on this forum.

slotrod65 · Post by **slotrod65** » Thu May 15, 2014 2:07 am

Ebjerke: I went through the same this as you this time last year, just a month or so after buying my Stella. I saw cars coming at me from everywhere, with (in my mind) their crosshairs on me. So I took a few weeks off and the bug was back. I now enjoy riding more than ever. I would suggest taking the class, and hanging on to your scooter for a while. My Wife called it "Scooter Scared." Yes, driving on two wheels has a certain element of risk, but the level of risk we all take every day driving our cars is tremendous, and we think nothing of it. 35,000 people in the US were killed in car crashes last year, but do you think about that for one second before grabbing your keys and heading to work, the store, or just for a drive? I am not trying to convince you to ride, but am just suggesting you take some time to be sure that this is not a phase.

Good luck to you, and enjoy...

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Thu May 15, 2014 2:29 am

slotrod65 wrote:Ebjerke: I went through the same this as you this time last year, just a month or so after buying my Stella. I saw cars coming at me from everywhere, with (in my mind) their crosshairs on me. So I took a few weeks off and the bug was back. I now enjoy riding more than ever. I would suggest taking the class, and hanging on to your scooter for a while. My Wife called it "Scooter Scared." Yes, driving on two wheels has a certain element of risk, but the level of risk we all take every day driving out cars is tremendous, and we think nothing of it. 35,000 people in the US were killed in car crashes last year, but do you think about that for one second before grabbing your keys and heading to work, the store, or just for a drive? I am not trying to convince you to ride, but am just suggesting you take some time to be sure that this is not a phase.

Good luck to you, and enjoy...

Thanks for sharing your similar experience. Since I can't get a refund for it ($250 here in CA!) I will be going to the class. I actually DIDN'T feel like cars were coming at me from every direction, but I thought I would. Actually today the thought I had as I am going 50 MPH was, "Crap, what if I blew a tire right now?" I was realizing that I could be the most aware most defensive driver around, and still have a major problem.

Again, it was good to hear from someone who has had similar thoughts.

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Thu May 15, 2014 3:05 am

I think your over thinking things. Take the MSF and you'll be good to go. Start slow and gain more confidence and in no time you'll be riding like you stole it. Dude you gotta remember you just got it and to give yourself some time...

OldGuy · Post by **OldGuy** » Thu May 15, 2014 3:58 am

I'll add to what has been said. But first I will say that 2 wheels aren't for everyone. And, yes, it is more dangerous. But for most, or maybe all of us, the reward is tremendous. By the way, I firmly believe that riding on 2 wheels makes a person a better car driver; you become more aware.

As was suggested, take the course; then, maybe wait a while before deciding to ride or to sell. Also, don't jump right into commuting or other riding in busy times or areas. Consider taking a quiet Saturday evening or Sunday morning ride, when way fewer people are on the road. If you can haul your scooter, you might haul it to a small local town or recreation area where the riding is beautiful and the roads are yours.

Whatever you decide, you have friends here when you need us.

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Thu May 15, 2014 4:34 am

OldGuy wrote:I'll add to what has been said. But first I will say that 2 wheels aren't for everyone. And, yes, it is more dangerous. But for most, or maybe all of us, the reward is tremendous. By the way, I firmly believe that riding on 2 wheels makes a person a better car driver; you become more aware.

As was suggested, take the course; then, maybe wait a while before deciding to ride or to sell. Also, don't jump right into commuting or other riding in busy times or areas. Consider taking a quiet Saturday evening or Sunday morning ride, when way fewer people are on the road. If you can haul your scooter, you might haul it to a small local town or recreation area where the riding is beautiful and the roads are yours.

Whatever you decide, you have friends here when you need us.

Some good thoughts and much appreciated. I have been commuting, but my ride to work is pretty much a straight 4-mile shot down a country road. It has a couple four-way stops and it ends with a roundabout and I was concerned about that, but it is no big deal now that I have passed that hurdle. I think I would rather go through roundabouts than intersections with traditional signals.

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Thu May 15, 2014 7:20 am

As someone that was in a motorcycle accident and left with a bad knee that didn't heal right...I know your fear, my mom feared for me every minute I owned the bike. I sold it after I got out of hospital. I had taken the rider course, 5 years of perfect riding with no warnings or tickets and it chewed at me to give up one of the few things that lessened he misery of my life just like all the other things I enjoyed...A drunk driver took my SCA and college, a fall ended my military as asperations, the list goes on..but the point is NOT this time, I HAD to make it work, ride again, my dad knew it and encouraged me, and I jumped at Stella...it's letting me rebuild my confidence, my individuality. I'm not saying do or don't sell, only your heart can decide that, I wanted to tell you to beware that fear of the 'what if' in life...that kind of fear would paralize doing anything....it would of kept me from experiences I could only of known about in movies or documentaries.

BuddyRaton · Post by **BuddyRaton** » Thu May 15, 2014 12:35 pm

Elder Scoot and Oldguy make a good point. Riding a scooter or any PTW has an element of danger. If there wasn't any risk I wouldn't gear up before riding. I also know that gear does not mean no injury in case of an accident, hopefully it reduces injury and increases survivability.

Is it a matter of not "if" but "when"? Meh...who cares, I know a lot of people that have gone down, from minor to major injury, and people that have ridden for years without incident.

Dooglas has a good idea too. Finish the MSF and see if you change your mind. You might...but you might not.

Scooters and MC's aren't for everyone. It seems to me that it is pretty much an all or nothing thing. People either love it or don't. There's nothing wrong with either, it's a personal choice...or maybe genetics...I don't know..and it doesn't matter...if it isn't for you it isn't for you...that's all.

Now...back to your original question. I know this scooter is you baby and it is "essentially" new. In reality, even with just 60 miles, it is a used scooter. The warranty doesn't transfer and that can be crucial to someone buying a first year release of a totally new design.

Sorry for the bad news but I would anticipate taking a minimum 25-35% hit on MSRP.

Please keep us updated!

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Thu May 15, 2014 2:42 pm

since the warrenty doesn't transfer why not keep it until it ends? you might change your mind...

47909Rider · Post by **47909Rider** » Thu May 15, 2014 3:08 pm

It is not that dangerous to ride.

I know, I know, "WTF is this guy talking about?!?!"

How many people do you think rode scooters and motorcycles just today?

Now how many do you think were involved in collisions/accidents?

When you think of it this way, you realize... it is not THAT dangerous.

You're far, far, far more likely to be involved in a car vs. car collision.

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Thu May 15, 2014 5:40 pm

Ebjerke wrote:I have been reading a lot lately on this forum and other places and I am just very impressed that it is incredibly dangerous to ride. One thread here in particular told about a guy who was making a simple turn and slipped in a puddle and everybody commented that going down was inevitable and that is was a matter of "when" not "If" you go down.

Lets not overwork this aspect of riding. I have been riding powered two wheelers longer than most members of this Forum have been alive. I rack up over 10,000 miles in the saddle every year. I have not even damaged a bike in many years. I bridle every time I hear someone offer this "when I go down" or "my first fall" stuff. Yes, there is some risk involved. Yes, skill and experience are required to ride safely. Yes, good judgment is required to ride safely. No, riding is hardly a suicide mission. Make your own choices, but avoid being scared off simply because of what you heard someone else say - or write.

caffeine65 · Post by **caffeine65** » Thu May 15, 2014 5:48 pm

I've been riding street motorcycles for 30 years and have never had an accident or "gone down" in any way. Who wants to rub my belly for luck?

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Thu May 15, 2014 8:49 pm

caffeine65 wrote:I've been riding street motorcycles for 30 years and have never had an accident or "gone down" in any way. Who wants to rub my belly for luck?

what the hell, couldn't hurt anything....with my luck, it can only get better

KABarash · Post by **KABarash** » Thu May 15, 2014 10:24 pm

There's been a lot said here today, sage advice from the old timers, good words from the youngsters as well as some remarks that may sound useless. Most of all all are trying to say, give it a try before you give up.
I too will offer those encouraging words. I've had my issues as well, two years ago after putting 16000 miles on my scoot I started suffering anxiety while riding, 'twas about to hang up my helmet and gloves, I took some time off from riding and saw my doctor as well, now I'm doing much better. viewtopic.php?t=21580&highlight=anxiety
Take your safety class, have fun with it, don't give up, think about it, don't think about it.

Now: here's my 'flippant' statement. Look how many car and truck accidents there are, do you still drive your car?
Maybe you're just suffering from some 'purchasers' remorse'
I'll reiterate, people here are all quite supportive, many even contacted my by private message to assist me.
Stick through it some, you actually will be quite OK....

Wild Handyman · Post by **Wild Handyman** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:29 pm

Ebjerke wrote:One thread here in particular told about a guy who was making a simple turn and slipped in a puddle and everybody commented that going down was inevitable and that is was a matter of "when" not "If" you go down.

No, it is not inevitable that you will go down. Is it possible? Yes. Inevitable? No. I rode a scooter for many years as a Police Officer in midtown Manhattan, riding some of the worst roads imaginable under the worst conditions imaginable and driving faster than recommended in order to answer service calls faster than my brothers on four wheels and I never fell. After a lapse of over twenty years I am up on two wheels again and I do share your concerns. Accidents are always possible, but I believe that if you use your head, ride responsibly, and don't let anyone or any traffic condition force you to go faster than your comfort limit, you should be fine.

My recommendation: Keep your scooter for a year and see how you feel then. Your wallet has already taken the depreciation hit and you won't lose much more by waiting a little while to let it go if that is your decision.

Elder Scoot · Post by **Elder Scoot** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:48 pm

How about this - the Stella auto is a very easy bike to master. Get up early Sunday morning and take it for a leisurely ride to your local park - or some place with little automobile traffic. Just enjoy the purr of the engine and the wind in your face. We all learned to crawl before we walked. Just take it very easy until you've built up confidence. Take the safety course and apply the skills it teaches. You'll end up hooked like the rest of us maniacs.

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Fri May 16, 2014 8:41 pm

Wow, what a great group here! Thanks for all of the advice and food for thought. It seems like I am going to keep at it for now.

You want to hear something funny? I am really not that much of a paranoid person, but while going 50 on my way to work two days ago, I had the thought, "crap, what happens if I blow a tire?" I am trying to put that out of my mind, lol.

jimmbomb · Post by **jimmbomb** » Fri May 16, 2014 9:45 pm

Im just wondering if 50 mph is a bit too fast for a new scooter with only 60 miles.
What about the "break in"??
When I want to see "what it will sell for", I post it on Craigslist at a close to purchase price..
Then when I get no 'tire kickers', I delete the post and post again with a deeply lowered price..
Then see how many 'tire kikers' I get in reply..
If it's ALOT of replies..
then delete the post again and raise the price..
Soon, you will find THE buyer.
And if you negotiate right, you'se both will agree on a price that neither of you is happy with.
good luck......
ps..I do agree that what ever happens when a 2 wheeler goes down... no matter who's fault it is... the rider will always get the worst out of the deal..
Even if you're right, any they were wrong.. YOU still get the raw deal, physically..
good luck!

Elder Scoot · Post by **Elder Scoot** » Fri May 16, 2014 9:56 pm

jimmbomb wrote:Im just wondering if 50 mph is a bit too fast for a new scooter with only 60 miles.

The break in recommendation for the Stella auto is not to exceed 80% of full throttle for 600 miles. I've done 50 mph easily at 2/3 throttle and I'm on the north side of 200 lbs. It's a surprisingly quick little bike.

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Fri May 16, 2014 10:01 pm

jimmbomb wrote:Im just wondering if 50 mph is a bit too fast for a new scooter with only 60 miles.
What about the "break in"?!

Well, I hope I am doing it right! Since it will do 60 for sure based on road tests I have seen, I figured that 50 is the fastest I should go until after the breakin period. I certainly haven't ever given it full throttle and I am only 150 lbs, so I thought 50 would be a safe speed until break in.

What great advice about Craigslist! I will have to use that on something one day!

az_slynch · Post by **az_slynch** » Sat May 17, 2014 6:36 am

Ebjerke wrote:You want to hear something funny? I am really not that much of a paranoid person, but while going 50 on my way to work two days ago, I had the thought, "crap, what happens if I blow a tire?" I am trying to put that out of my mind, lol.

You could assuage your fear and go with tubeless rims and tires as Elder Scoot and others have done. Tubeless punctures are far more gentle and manageable than blowouts on tubed tires.

Personally, I got my first Vespa in '87 and have ridden tons of old bike with tubed tires at speed with only two tube punctures; one front, one rear. Both resulted in safe stops, though the front puncture was a bit hair-raising. Since then, I prefer using Kendra Tuff Tubes for the extra puncture resistance and they haven't let me down yet (

).

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Mon May 19, 2014 1:40 am

az_slynch wrote:
Ebjerke wrote:You want to hear something funny? I am really not that much of a paranoid person, but while going 50 on my way to work two days ago, I had the thought, "crap, what happens if I blow a tire?" I am trying to put that out of my mind, lol.
You could assuage your fear and go with tubeless rims and tires as Elder Scoot and others have done. Tubeless punctures are far more gentle and manageable than blowouts on tubed tires.

Personally, I got my first Vespa in '87 and have ridden tons of old bike with tubed tires at speed with only two tube punctures; one front, one rear. Both resulted in safe stops, though the front puncture was a bit hair-raising. Since then, I prefer using Kendra Tuff Tubes for the extra puncture resistance and they haven't let me down yet ( ).

Thanks for the encouragement! I successfully completed the motorcycle safety class and am feeling like I will stick with it for now. Not so much because of anything like completing the class, but because of all the encouragement. Thanks again!

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:02 am

Ebjerke wrote:Thanks for the encouragement! I successfully completed the motorcycle safety class and am feeling like I will stick with it for now. Not so much because of anything like completing the class, but because of all the encouragement. Thanks again!

Congratulations! You have passed one challenge in demonstrating your level of skill in safely operating a scooter/motorcycle. Now go out and ride in low risk situations and build your level of experience and ability. The more you ride, the more you understand how your scooter reacts, and the more you develop instinctive ways to respond to various situations - the safer you will be! And the more you will enjoy your riding experience!

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Mon May 19, 2014 7:33 am

Dooglas wrote:
Ebjerke wrote:Thanks for the encouragement! I successfully completed the motorcycle safety class and am feeling like I will stick with it for now. Not so much because of anything like completing the class, but because of all the encouragement. Thanks again!
Congratulations! You have passed one challenge in demonstrating your level of skill in safely operating a scooter/motorcycle. Now go out and ride in low risk situations and build your level of experience and ability. The more you ride, the more you understand how your scooter reacts, and the more you develop instinctive ways to respond to various situations - the safer you will be! And the more you will enjoy your riding experience!

Sooooo,does that mean he should hold off on the cannonball run for this year?

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Mon May 19, 2014 3:22 pm

EvilNerdLord wrote:Sooooo,does that mean he should hold off on the cannonball run for this year?

I'd say he - and all of us - should ride within our comfort zone. I expect he'll know when he is ready for the Cannonball.

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:06 pm

Dooglas wrote:
EvilNerdLord wrote:Sooooo,does that mean he should hold off on the cannonball run for this year?
I'd say he - and all of us - should ride within our comfort zone. I expect he'll know when he is ready for the Cannonball.

chillax..it was a meant as a light hearted tease...(you can tell by the winky emoticon ).

I know all that..why do think I haven't pursued doing something like that run, even though I drool over the whole epic-ness of it all.

jimmbomb · Post by **jimmbomb** » Mon May 19, 2014 5:39 pm

I thought he was most worried about a "blow out" while going 60 mph...
Dont we all??? I really dont.. I rarely go 60 anyways.. and dont worry about a blow out., but that's me... NOT him!! I have zero advice on how NOT to worry about the possibility of me having a blow out while underway..
good luck

longroof · Post by **longroof** » Mon May 19, 2014 6:17 pm

I've been riding 48 years. Covered 260,000 miles or so during that time on 11 different bikes. I'm a rider coach with the MSF. Last year I cleaned out a ditch with my motorcycle after sliding on some rock and mud in a blind corner. Neither the bike nor I was hurt. My 75 year old riding buddy who has been on bikes for 68 of those years died...of cancer. Another riding friend that is 79 totaled his 1300 Yamaha last year. That same week he bought a Goldwing with an extended warranty. He rides all over the USA and Canada. His wreck occurred two states away. Another friend who's 72 wrecked his drag bike at 130 MPH when he was in his 30's. He complained of a sore thumb then. The two previously mentioned rides also raced off road in their youth. No injuries. If you wreck it is not an automatic death sentence or an incapacitating injury. Enjoy the ride.

jimmbomb · Post by **jimmbomb** » Mon May 19, 2014 6:45 pm

Wearing good riding gear can help keep the road rash away too!!

okcgravity · Post by **okcgravity** » Tue May 20, 2014 10:49 pm

To answer your question,

http://www.wikihow.com/Handle-a-Tire-Bl ... Motorcycle

I have had my back tire blow out on my GTS while doing 70 on the freeway. It was a big nail that went in and right back out causing a pretty instant flat. The back end suddenly felt like it was on ice. I sat up straight, and kept the front end pointed forward. Didn't try to steer, just rode it out. Rolled to a calm stop and then pulled off the freeway. Only negative out of it was a friend who teases me constantly about how my bike was sliding all around.

Karma got him 1 year later when he and I were riding back from a rally in Austin. He lost the back tire to his Yamaha Morphous while doing 75. Same thing, he left off the gas and tried to keep the front pointed forward. He rolled to a stop and pulled over, there we both laughed about what the odds of us both getting flat tires while following each other.

A flat tire isn't the end of the world, and it isn't an automatic crash. It is something that can happen, and you deal with it.

Glad your going to try to stick with it, good luck and keep the rubber side down.

Tipper · Post by **Tipper** » Wed May 21, 2014 9:07 am

It's the exploding front tyre you really have to worry about

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Thu May 22, 2014 4:34 am

okcgravity wrote:To answer your question,

http://www.wikihow.com/Handle-a-Tire-Bl ... Motorcycle

I have had my back tire blow out on my GTS while doing 70 on the freeway. It was a big nail that went in and right back out causing a pretty instant flat. The back end suddenly felt like it was on ice. I sat up straight, and kept the front end pointed forward. Didn't try to steer, just rode it out. Rolled to a calm stop and then pulled off the freeway. Only negative out of it was a friend who teases me constantly about how my bike was sliding all around.

Karma got him 1 year later when he and I were riding back from a rally in Austin. He lost the back tire to his Yamaha Morphous while doing 75. Same thing, he left off the gas and tried to keep the front pointed forward. He rolled to a stop and pulled over, there we both laughed about what the odds of us both getting flat tires while following each other.

A flat tire isn't the end of the world, and it isn't an automatic crash. It is something that can happen, and you deal with it.

Glad your going to try to stick with it, good luck and keep the rubber side down.

Thanks for the info and encouragement. Just ordered some riding gear (over pants and jacket) looks like I am in it for the long haul.

jartist · Post by **jartist** » Fri May 23, 2014 6:25 am

I just now noticed you live in Riverbank. Take River Road to Rodden Road to Orange Blossom Road to Knights Ferry and grab an ice cream from the shop there and you should be cured of any worries. One of my top ten favorite rides.

KABarash · Post by **KABarash** » Fri May 23, 2014 12:04 pm

Ebjerke wrote: Thanks for the info and encouragement. Just ordered some riding gear (over pants and jacket) looks like I am in it for the long haul.

Ride happy, ride safe.
Enjoy yourself.

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Sat May 24, 2014 12:22 am

jartist wrote:I just now noticed you live in Riverbank. Take River Road to Rodden Road to Orange Blossom Road to Knights Ferry and grab an ice cream from the shop there and you should be cured of any worries. One of my top ten favorite rides.

I had definitely planned on tKing that route! I am an avid photographer, so I take all of those back roads to see what I can see. Thanks!

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:49 am

Ebjerke wrote:
jartist wrote:I just now noticed you live in Riverbank. Take River Road to Rodden Road to Orange Blossom Road to Knights Ferry and grab an ice cream from the shop there and you should be cured of any worries. One of my top ten favorite rides.
I had definitely planned on tKing that route! I am an avid photographer, so I take all of those back roads to see what I can see. Thanks!

Been in California my whole life, but where's riverbank? Can't be nor cal....

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:17 pm

EvilNerdLord wrote:Been in California my whole life, but where's riverbank? Can't be nor cal....

It is near Modesto. I don't believe SoCal has riverbanks, does it?

Ebjerke · Post by **Ebjerke** » Sat May 24, 2014 3:34 pm

Dooglas wrote:
EvilNerdLord wrote:Been in California my whole life, but where's riverbank? Can't be nor cal....
It is near Modesto. I don't believe SoCal has riverbanks, does it?

The Riverbank's in Southern California are all made of concrete.

Drum Pro · Post by **Drum Pro** » Sat May 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Dooglas wrote:
EvilNerdLord wrote:Been in California my whole life, but where's riverbank? Can't be nor cal....
It is near Modesto. I don't believe SoCal has riverbanks, does it?

No we have a Riverside which is about 45 min from me.....

az_slynch · Post by **az_slynch** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:33 am

Ebjerke wrote:The Riverbank's in Southern California are all made of concrete.

Could be worse, over here in southern AZ, we don't need concrete because there's almost never any water to worry about. When there is water in the "river", it might run for a few hours if we're lucky.

Dooglas · Post by **Dooglas** » Mon May 26, 2014 5:07 pm

Ebjerke wrote: looks like I am in it for the long haul.

Maybe you will want to change the title of this thread to "NOT thinking of selling my brand new Stella Auto"

Ride safe! Have fun!

EvilNerdLord · Post by **EvilNerdLord** » Tue May 27, 2014 7:50 am

Dooglas wrote:
Ebjerke wrote: looks like I am in it for the long haul.
Maybe you will want to change the title of this thread to "NOT thinking of selling my brand new Stella Auto"
Ride safe! Have fun!

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