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I'm thinking about getting these cowl protectors but
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:06 pm
by Mulliganal
is there any reason these wouldn't fit on a 4T Stella? Also, does anyone have this set; I'm just not sure about the quality.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/__?_from=R4 ... rs&_sacat=
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:19 pm
by spd122
I have them. Bought them from the same guy, they look great and at least on the 2T there was no drilling. Just a socket and an adjustable wrench. The chrome is nice, I keep the scooter in a garage, so I'm not sure about weather, but they are nice bars. He also had a matching front bumper he gave me a deal on.
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:39 am
by Mulliganal
spd122 wrote:I have them. Bought them from the same guy, they look great and at least on the 2T there was no drilling. Just a socket and an adjustable wrench. The chrome is nice, I keep the scooter in a garage, so I'm not sure about weather, but they are nice bars. He also had a matching front bumper he gave me a deal on.
Thanks so much spd122, I really appreciate the information. I'm going to check out his front fender also; I like to look of these more than many others I've seen.
Re: I'm thinking about getting these cowl protectors but
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:05 am
by DirtyRAT
I would not buy them, IMHO. Look at the mounts that go onto the footboard. Those thin, stamped steel mounts will be the weakest point where, in a crash, the bars will transfer the force to those mounts and break.
Spend the extra money (~$100 USD)on a more robust cowl guard. Think of how much it will cost to replace or repaint a scooter cowl (get an estimate for painting, dent repair, etc) and make your decision.
Having ruined a P200E cowl, I chose the heavy duty chrome guards on my new Stella.
Re: I'm thinking about getting these cowl protectors but
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:33 pm
by Mulliganal
DirtyRAT wrote:I would not buy them, IMHO. Look at the mounts that go onto the footboard. Those thin, stamped steel mounts will be the weakest point where, in a crash, the bars will transfer the force to those mounts and break.
Spend the extra money (~$100 USD)on a more robust cowl guard. Think of how much it will cost to replace or repaint a scooter cowl (get an estimate for painting, dent repair, etc) and make your decision.
Having ruined a P200E cowl, I chose the heavy duty chrome guards on my new Stella.
Thanks so much DirtRat, I want a good set also so I don't mind spending the extra $100. Which set did you get for your new Stella?
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:48 pm
by spd122
I definitely see Mullingal's point, but the truth is in a crash that will do that much damage, the cowl will get messed up anyway, so will the cowl protector and whatever it is attached to. They are good protection for dropping it, getting it knocked over, etc, but if you"crash" the scooter is gonna get messed up. Cost of cowl, plus paint, plus cowl protector. Best bet is, don't crash.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:59 pm
by Mulliganal
spd122 wrote:Best bet is, don't crash.
I like that idea the best.
Question, are crash bars any good and do folks actually use them? I have not seen too many scooters with them.

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:02 pm
by spd122
I had them on my Harley and I have them to thank for my legs today. Screw the bike if you're in a real crash, can't buy new legs in a store.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:11 pm
by DirtyRAT
spd122 wrote:I definitely see Mullingal's point, but the truth is in a crash that will do that much damage, the cowl will get messed up anyway, so will the cowl protector and whatever it is attached to. They are good protection for dropping it, getting it knocked over, etc, but if you"crash" the scooter is gonna get messed up. Cost of cowl, plus paint, plus cowl protector. Best bet is, don't crash.
I definitely agree: the chrome cowl bars are for the 'Oops, someone backed into my parked scooter' or 'the pavement under my kickstand melted, and scooter go boom'.
I rechecked my invoice and my chrome cowl guards look like this:
http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_page ... ome-Bars/8
I didnt pay that retail price, but willing to pay more for the thicker chrome and more beefy mounting brackets. I live near the ocean, so thicker chrome takes longer to pit/corode.
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:59 pm
by Mulliganal
DirtyRAT wrote:spd122 wrote:I definitely see Mullingal's point, but the truth is in a crash that will do that much damage, the cowl will get messed up anyway, so will the cowl protector and whatever it is attached to. They are good protection for dropping it, getting it knocked over, etc, but if you"crash" the scooter is gonna get messed up. Cost of cowl, plus paint, plus cowl protector. Best bet is, don't crash.
I definitely agree: the chrome cowl bars are for the 'Oops, someone backed into my parked scooter' or 'the pavement under my kickstand melted, and scooter go boom'.
I rechecked my invoice and my chrome cowl guards look like this:
http://www.scooterwest.com/items/?_page ... ome-Bars/8
I didnt pay that retail price, but willing to pay more for the thicker chrome and more beefy mounting brackets. I live near the ocean, so thicker chrome takes longer to pit/corode.
Thanks again, I was looking at the set from scooterworks which are $209, but I wonder how much better these are at $299 from scooterwest. They actually look the same as the set from scooterworks.
http://www.scooterworks.com/Cowl-Protec ... 8C380.aspx
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:12 pm
by Silver Streak
I have those. They are top-notch. Heavy chroming, fit well, substantial, and look good.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:13 am
by Mulliganal
Silver Streak wrote:I have those. They are top-notch. Heavy chroming, fit well, substantial, and look good.
Thanks Silver Streak, but which set do you have, the ones from Scooterworks or from Scooterwest?
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:43 am
by Silver Streak
I think they're the same, but I got mine from Scooterworks.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:36 am
by DirtyRAT
I ended up paying $199 for my rear cowl guards. Looks like Scooterwest jacks the online price up higher than Scooterworks.
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:42 pm
by Mulliganal
DirtyRAT wrote:I ended up paying $199 for my rear cowl guards. Looks like Scooterwest jacks the online price up higher than Scooterworks.
And if you purchase a number of items it looks like the price goes down even more at Scooterworks.