Blur SS220i seat..
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Blur SS220i seat..
Well, live and learn. I had a 'gel' pad in stalled in the seat of my new Blur. The guy who did the work did an excellent job. You can't tell that it's there. I put the seat back on my SS and went for a ride on a bunch of twistys just outside of town.
First: I noticed that the seat height had changed, but only slightly.
Second: It was hard as a rock sitting on it.
Third: After an hour my butt was in agony.
Fourth: I'm out $120 and will spend another $79 plus shipping, for another seat.
Crikies!
First: I noticed that the seat height had changed, but only slightly.
Second: It was hard as a rock sitting on it.
Third: After an hour my butt was in agony.
Fourth: I'm out $120 and will spend another $79 plus shipping, for another seat.
Crikies!
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Got a new seat in for my SS from Scooterworks. Prompt service as usual King Friday. Anyway, it is now back to normal after the gel-pad fiasco. This winter I think I'll take the old seat apart and see if I can identify the problem with the gel-pad. My initial thoughts are that a gel-pad (being similar to water) can be displaced but not compressed. In other words if it doesn't have enough room to move around in there it won't be effective. We'll see.
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I've bee told by Scooterworks that the Blur 220si seat will fit on the old Blur 150.
If you are 6' or taller, you'll want to think about this new seat as it feels way better on longer rides and doesn't push you forward like the original throne.... and your underwear won't bunch up ... just sayin'
I've bee told by Scooterworks that the Blur 220si seat will fit on the old Blur 150.
If you are 6' or taller, you'll want to think about this new seat as it feels way better on longer rides and doesn't push you forward like the original throne.... and your underwear won't bunch up ... just sayin'
Blaine
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I don't know if I'd go that far. It's an improvement, but only just a hair. It's still the scoot's weakest link.blurblaine wrote:DEC 2010
I've bee told by Scooterworks that the Blur 220si seat will fit on the old Blur 150.
If you are 6' or taller, you'll want to think about this new seat as it feels way better on longer rides and doesn't push you forward like the original throne.... and your underwear won't bunch up ... just sayin'
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BTW - Scooterworks told me yesterday that they wanted $174 for a new 220si seat + shipping 
so that makes me wonder where mikie m is getting $79 seats?

so that makes me wonder where mikie m is getting $79 seats?
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When I bought a new seat to replace the failed "gel-pad" experiment I went to Scooter Lounge first. Their OEM Blur seats where $89, but they were out of stock at the time. I then called Scooterworks, who had the seats in stock, and asked if they would meet, or beat the $89 and they sold it me one for that price.
As an aside, this Spring I plan to dissect the old seat and remove, or replace some of the bracing on the underneath side, especially the rib that goes from side to side underneath the tailbone. This may negate putting a full-face helmet in the pet carrier, but so be it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
P.S. I just looked it up to make sure, and I see that I bought the new seat from Scooterworks on Oct. 5, 2010, for $90 even, and that included shipping.
As an aside, this Spring I plan to dissect the old seat and remove, or replace some of the bracing on the underneath side, especially the rib that goes from side to side underneath the tailbone. This may negate putting a full-face helmet in the pet carrier, but so be it. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
P.S. I just looked it up to make sure, and I see that I bought the new seat from Scooterworks on Oct. 5, 2010, for $90 even, and that included shipping.
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in case anyone is wondering, scooterworks is no longer willing to sell a new 220si seat for $90... quoted me the $174 - 10% discount + shipping
in case anyone is wondering, scooterworks is no longer willing to sell a new 220si seat for $90... quoted me the $174 - 10% discount + shipping
Blaine
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http://www.blainekelley.com/scooters.html
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Seems like seats are one of the most popular subjects on any bike board. And the reason is that most seats are uncomfortable after an hour or so.
Seats are too narrow. Period. A narrow seat means too much of your weight is being supported at the sitz bones - every seat modification aims at making these contact points as comfortable as possible by proper padding or by reducing the load at those points.
Reducing the load is much easier if you have a wide seat that cradles your butt - like an expensive office chair or sportscar seat. But unless you have an extraordinarily low seat height, you can't put your feet on the ground if you have a nice wide comfy seat.
Craig Vetter dealt with that issue back in the 70s with his Magic Seat Board - a piece of flat wood that fits around the front of a motorcycle seat, which comfortably supports the thighs - taking weight of the hinder. It works great, and many long distant riders love his design, but it can only be in place after you settle in for a long cruise because it keeps you from putting your feet to the ground - you have to put it in place by hand while you are in motion, and remove it by hand before you attempt to stop.

The Butty Buddy is a wide cradle seat designed for passengers. It fits over the pillion seat and gives comfortable support that narrow pillion saddles cannot.

Now here's my thought. On a scooter we aren't always as locked into as fixed a seating position as most motorcycles. A lot of Blur riders dislike the hump on the saddle precisely because we like to slide back on the seat when settled in for cruising, but we slide forward when riding slow and when we need to have a foot ready to touch pavement. Why not have a saddle that is narrow in front, and wide and cradled in back? Think of it being like inserting the Butty Buddy in the middle of the seat, and extending it back.
Seats are too narrow. Period. A narrow seat means too much of your weight is being supported at the sitz bones - every seat modification aims at making these contact points as comfortable as possible by proper padding or by reducing the load at those points.
Reducing the load is much easier if you have a wide seat that cradles your butt - like an expensive office chair or sportscar seat. But unless you have an extraordinarily low seat height, you can't put your feet on the ground if you have a nice wide comfy seat.
Craig Vetter dealt with that issue back in the 70s with his Magic Seat Board - a piece of flat wood that fits around the front of a motorcycle seat, which comfortably supports the thighs - taking weight of the hinder. It works great, and many long distant riders love his design, but it can only be in place after you settle in for a long cruise because it keeps you from putting your feet to the ground - you have to put it in place by hand while you are in motion, and remove it by hand before you attempt to stop.

The Butty Buddy is a wide cradle seat designed for passengers. It fits over the pillion seat and gives comfortable support that narrow pillion saddles cannot.

Now here's my thought. On a scooter we aren't always as locked into as fixed a seating position as most motorcycles. A lot of Blur riders dislike the hump on the saddle precisely because we like to slide back on the seat when settled in for cruising, but we slide forward when riding slow and when we need to have a foot ready to touch pavement. Why not have a saddle that is narrow in front, and wide and cradled in back? Think of it being like inserting the Butty Buddy in the middle of the seat, and extending it back.
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Now that is what I'm talking about. For the Blur it would need a longer nose for when you need to flat foot it - particularly for us shorter folk, and lose the lip in back to allow more slide back for the pilot or room for a passenger.Dooglas wrote:Many after-market seat makers/modifiers have figured out that a wider support base is the way to create longer duration comfort. Below is a photo of a Russell day-long seat on an MP3 (Russell is located in N. Cal near Redding)
Something like this:
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So what are you guys telling me. The stock Blur seat sucks. That's no good. I was hoping for more comfort in my next scooters seat. Currently my 09 Kymco Agility 125 is fairly comfy for an hour or two. I think it is hard to get a feel for the comfort level of a seat when your sitting on the scoot on the showroom floor and all you can think of is how cool is this?
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I must be the only one who finds the stock seat comfortable. Bothers me not in the least.docjones wrote:So what are you guys telling me. The stock Blur seat sucks. That's no good. I was hoping for more comfort in my next scooters seat. Currently my 09 Kymco Agility 125 is fairly comfy for an hour or two. I think it is hard to get a feel for the comfort level of a seat when your sitting on the scoot on the showroom floor and all you can think of is how cool is this?
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The Blur 150 seat is fine for the first hour, and I'll take their word for it that the 220i is improved. That's not bad for a small scooter - and It would be absurd to reject the best ride available in a scooter because of it.
But for long rides and highway cruises - which the 220i is perfectly capable of, an upscale option would be great.
But for long rides and highway cruises - which the 220i is perfectly capable of, an upscale option would be great.