Anyone run across a new source for an exhaust recently?

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:58 am

I know it's been done and done in the past, but i was wondering if anyone's come across a new source for an exhaust for our poor abandoned Blurs recently. I wouldn't mind the Prima, but it's been out of stock for a while and it's a little on the pricey side to be honest, especially compared to the Buddy's exhaust price.

I figured I'd start a new exhaust thread for 09.

Thanks folks!

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:29 am

Monthly bump! Anyone not happy with their Prima exhaust, shoot me a PM.

For those without an exhaust, chime in... maybe we could urge Scooterworks to get another production run.

For those that have found another exhaust (where the pipe goes above the fan shroud) speak up.

/sigh

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:59 am

I've thought about buying a generic GY6, carbon fiber exhaust system and making it work on my Blur. The main difference I can see is that the manifold pipe goes under the air intake with the generic rather than over it. A custom bracket might be neccessary to attach the muffler to the scoot - no big deal.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:17 am

A custom bracket is necessary. I guess I'm being a stickler, but I kinda like the idea of the pipe going above the fan shroud. I guess I just want the "bolt on" convenience especially since I don't have all the tools I'd need to make a custom exhaust. I've even thought about sticking a drill down the stock exhaust (I'm not doing this by the way) to open it up a little bit as I actually like the way the stock exhaust looks.

I'll keep looking. but if anyone finds something.... please post!

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:27 pm

Opps, I missed bumping this thread in early March!

Same topic: If you've found any leads on an exhaust, please share.

Thank you and now back to your regularly scheduled browsing.

skip! · Post by **skip!** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:42 am

There is a place in So Cal called Scooter Dynasty that said they could get me
an MRP pipe for my Blur. Try 'em. The guys name is Vincent. I don't have the # right now but you can look it up.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:21 am

When I checked a week ago, MRP didn't have their exhaust in stock. Also, they want $370+ which is WAY too much. I'm probably just being picky. Ahh well, the search continues.

Davek · Post by **Davek** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:17 pm

Hmm, I saw these pics on the the PGO GMAX fan page on Facebook.. not sure if the person custom-fit an Akrapovic or if they actually make one for our scooters elsewhere.

Maybe someone can try to translate these and figure it out:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/PGO-Gmax/8042829548

GFridrich3 · Post by **GFridrich3** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 1:34 am

And here Ive been sitting around watching my Prima pipe collect dust in the garage all this time Ive had it listed for sale on the forum... I guess there really isnt as much demand for an aftermarket pipe as first seems.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:34 am

I'm thinking of making my own. I'm not crazy about the Prima, just not a fan of the way it sticks up. I can't get my saddlebags on with it. Plus, it's not as big of a difference as the Prima for the Buddy. I'm starting to think I should have held onto the Buddy Prima and hacked/welded it onto a custom header for the Blur.

GFridrich3, I think it's sat so long because you were asking about full price for a used pipe with no pictures. I see you've lowered it a little since then... I'm not saying you should do it, but I took nearly a hundred dollar hit on the Buddy pipe I sold a few months back.

GFridrich3 · Post by **GFridrich3** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:58 pm

Lostmycage wrote:I'm not saying you should do it, but I took nearly a hundred dollar hit on the Buddy pipe I sold a few months back.

My local price IS $100 less than new price, and the muffler has less than 300 miles of use and no physical damage whatsoever. Even the header gasket still looks almost brand new. Im just one guy and cant afford to spring for free shipping and paypal services. $250, shipped and paypalled for the exhaust AND a brand new #110 carb jet, which looks like it is still out of stock too at scooterworks. You get the whole package deal for a reasonable price, considering the state of availability if you want to make an issue about buying new for only a few dollars more. Ive got one, ready to go right now, at a cost less than a new one IF it were in stock anyways.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:33 pm

I don't know why they increased the price at Scooterworks considering that they're probably not going to restock the Blur exhaust. When they actually carried it, it was $260. So if they do get them back in stock, then you can say it's $100 savings. As it sits now, you're taking a $35 hit and most people who have a Blur know that. Sorry to be the one to point it out to you, but I think that lends a sort of "shadiness" to your price especially with the lack of picture.

That being said, if someone really wants a Prima exhaust, a used one sight unseen, then yours is a good price. I'd still suggest a new gasket, since they're the compression type. I'm sure someone will buy it, I'm just suggesting that you might be waiting a while.

You really would do yourself a favor by posting a pic of it.

GFridrich3 · Post by **GFridrich3** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:03 pm

Here's a pic of it on my Blur before it sold. Its sitting in my garage collecting dust now. So what if my asking price is higher than YOU want to pay for it? Fact is you dont have much options, you can complain about what the price was before and is now, the pipe is still out of stock, and like you said, probably wont be back in stock again. The #110 jets are out of stock too and have been for the longest time too. I have both parts ready to buy RIGHT NOW, the jet IS brand new, and the pipe is just as good as a brand new one, gonna look the same, gonna work the same, only difference is that its coming from some other guy instead of the dealer. Why should I have to lower my asking price on a part other people want and cant buy new? Im not being shady in any way, im asking what I feel the exhaust is worth, in both the savings in time and frustration of waiting for something on backorder for an indefinite amount of time.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:48 pm

I'm not saying you need to lower your price. I'm pointing out possible reasons that no one is buying it. I'm not willing to pay any price for one because I already have one and I've since taken it back off because I like the stock exhaust better. Hell, I might even sell mine because I'm still looking for an alternative exhaust.

I'm not saying that you should lower your price. I'm not even saying it's a bad buy. I'm telling you why it's not selling. When buying something used, people want to see the item as it sits, not a picture of it on the bike. It'd also do you well to put the picture in the for sale post.

So, back to the original thread. Since we can't find options for a bolt on exhaust, has anyone given though to fabricating a manifold and using a free-flow exhaust more commonly found on ebay? I'm with Babblefish, a carbon fiber one would look pretty sick. I've even found some that are not free-flowing, but are listed as having a back pressure design.

blurblaine · Post by **blurblaine** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:04 pm

speaking of exhaust changes ...

if any of you have done this and are wondering what to do with the original exhaust heat shield/cover that you ne longer need ... i am looking for 1 in like-new condition.

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 5:07 pm

http://www.ncy-motor.com.tw/english/show.asp?pno=1010

I came across this exhaust when I was searching carburetors on the internet. It's a good looking pipe probably with a good looking price tag too! And you have to be adealer to buy it to boot.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:01 pm

Hehe, way ahead of you there. These are out of production and the minimum order is 100 (or was it 150?) units for them to commit to making another production run. It'd have to be ordered overseas as well, since Scooterworks has an exclusive import contract with NCY.

They do look nice, don't they?

hungcanuck · Post by **hungcanuck** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:44 pm

I'm also looking for a heat shield if anyone has an extra.

hungcanuck · Post by **hungcanuck** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:49 am

Just found out Scooterworks has heat shields for the poster above.

KS Power Nick · Post by **KS Power Nick** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:57 pm

FYI--

MRP Blur exhaust systems are instock and ready to ship. IF you would be interested PM me for pricing.

LAter

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:17 am

You know what we really need is a source for Blur headers that is big enough to fit normal exhaust openings. That way all we have to do is throw a GY6 exhaust onto it and be done. Ebay has hundreds of them. But we're stuck with this tiny header! GRRRR

KS Power Nick · Post by **KS Power Nick** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:49 pm

beeboytroy wrote:You know what we really need is a source for Blur headers that is big enough to fit normal exhaust openings. That way all we have to do is throw a GY6 exhaust onto it and be done. Ebay has hundreds of them. But we're stuck with this tiny header! GRRRR

Are you saying there would be a need for just the head pipes?

Then you could get an off the shelf muffler like a yoshi or something simular?

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:20 am

Thats what I'm saying. I had to "upsize" my header at a machine shop to fit a Two Brothers exhaust to it. I just could not wait for someone to build an exhaust for a scooter that may or may not be picked up by Genuine. So right now its at the shop getting rejetted. You'll find a lot of scoots on MB that had their headers upsized.

KS Power Nick · Post by **KS Power Nick** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:03 pm

WOW that is actually REALLY cool looking. When you added the larger diameter pipe you made a stepped header. By changing where the step is you can change the power curve of the engine some. Also that Two brothers muffler looks great on there too. What size pipe did you use? 1" diameter (OD)?

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:30 pm

Here's the dimensions from the exhaust website:

Header Features:
· Mandrel bent thinwall (0.35” x 1.125”) stainless steel headpipe
· CNC machined stainless steel headpipe collar
· CNC machined aluminum headpipe flange (gold anodized)

But you need to sit with your machine shop guy and figure out how you want the pipe to look and sit. By the way both the muffler and the header come as a kit.

KS Power Nick · Post by **KS Power Nick** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:39 pm

How does it run?

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:31 am

Mind if I ask how much that kit goes for?

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:24 am

It pretty much runs like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFRHpnSMkrg

Considering I stole Scoot Over's Blur setup. I was a little unhappy with the lag from medium to top end. So my scoot mechanics are putting some goodies under the hood. But I promised to keep it quiet. Sorry.

The muffler and header will cost you roughly $270. I found it on ebay for cheaper. Then you have to pay the machine shop guy $$. Then you have to pay the mechanics to rejet your carb $$. Before you know it that MRP muffler isn't looking so bad. Ha more money than brains, thats me!

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:10 pm

OK, now for the obvious question: how does the exhaust you've got on there effect the power delivery? You mentioned a lag...

Is yours a stock motor (until you get it back from the shop that is)?

beeboytroy · Post by **beeboytroy** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:56 pm

OK let me see if I could answer your question. The lag I refer to is when I hit a certain speed, around 50 mph, I seem to climb slowly to 70 mph. This is different from 0-50 mph. Where I accelerate quickly and steadily. But it was this way with my old exhaust too. All the power is there, but I believe the carb is insufficient. You know when you mess with one thing you inadvertantly have to mess with three other things. I have no modifications to the engine.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:31 pm

Lol, yeah, bolt on is a lie.

I've found that the Blur likes a little backpressure, and the stock pipe has really grown on me. I was able to hit a higher topend with the Prima pipe, but when I was thinking about selling the Blur, I put the stock exhaust back on and have just left it on. The stock exhaust give my butt the feeling of a little more torque. I love torque!

9900rpm · Post by **9900rpm** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:47 am

TTT. Anything?

BeachBuzz · Post by **BeachBuzz** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:46 pm

I was chatting with Sean at Philadelphia Scooters about upgrading Mrs' Buddy - it already has the Prima and 92 jet but the rollers and spring werent changed blah blah blah long story short Mrs' doesnt need/want more performance from the Bud, she's perfectly happy with it the way it is. So at the the (almost) end of our Buddy chat Sean mentioned that we could do the same upgrade to the Blur!

'but I thought the Prima's weren't available for the Blur" says I

'they arent but there is an NCY that fits it' says Sean

"I thought the Blur exhaust was developed/designed differently than the normal stock pipe and the upgrade didnt really do much for reliability or performance'

'hmmm - that may be, but the NCY sounds really nice - like the Prima on the Bud. we just put one on another customer's Blur and he seems very happy with it'

another long story short - I'm (Sean/Dan are)doing the slider/spring upgrade to the Blur but keeping the stock pipe (for now) but there is at least one Blur in the Philadelphia area with the NCY pipe installed. I'm sure the fine folks at Philadelphia Scooters could point you in the right direction if you're interested in finding out more about it.

KCScooterDude · Post by **KCScooterDude** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:07 am

BeachBuzz wrote:I was chatting with Sean at Philadelphia Scooters about upgrading Mrs' Buddy - it already has the Prima and 92 jet but the rollers and spring werent changed blah blah blah long story short Mrs' doesnt need/want more performance from the Bud, she's perfectly happy with it the way it is. So at the the (almost) end of our Buddy chat Sean mentioned that we could do the same upgrade to the Blur!

'but I thought the Prima's weren't available for the Blur" says I

'they arent but there is an NCY that fits it' says Sean

"I thought the Blur exhaust was developed/designed differently than the normal stock pipe and the upgrade didnt really do much for reliability or performance'

'hmmm - that may be, but the NCY sounds really nice - like the Prima on the Bud. we just put one on another customer's Blur and he seems very happy with it'

another long story short - I'm (Sean/Dan are)doing the slider/spring upgrade to the Blur but keeping the stock pipe (for now) but there is at least one Blur in the Philadelphia area with the NCY pipe installed. I'm sure the fine folks at Philadelphia Scooters could point you in the right direction if you're interested in finding out more about it.

Anyone have a part number for the NCY exhaust. I'm looking for a winter project.

BeachBuzz · Post by **BeachBuzz** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:56 pm

KCScooterDude wrote: Anyone have a part number for the NCY exhaust. I'm looking for a winter project.

If I remember I'll ask Sean when I go back to pick up the Blur, or you could check with them http://www.philadelphiascooters.com/