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B02S4 · Post by **B02S4** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:43 pm

I've come to the conclusion that I neither want or need one on my Rat 106.2

If I want to ride over 60MPH then I'll take the motorcycle instead.

bigbropgo · Post by **bigbropgo** » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:39 pm

Frustrated? I feel ya. I had a long conversation with a friend of mine and his dad about their snowmobiles. (Big time slednecks) they said the problem with many or big mods is the reliability after the work is done. Pushing the motor to its limits and pushing to what the motors potential are not the same. If the rattler/pmx was supported more I would jump right in. But I'm getting sick of the "have to make it fit". I won't stop looking or working on stuff in the cvt.

laxer · Post by **laxer** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:26 am

I kinda came to the same conclusion (except I don't have a motorcycle). I'm gonna leave my Rat the way it is and put money away to get something vintage and expand my collection to two!

Major Redneck · Post by **Major Redneck** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:11 pm

laxer wrote:I kinda came to the same conclusion (except I don't have a motorcycle). I'm gonna leave my Rat the way it is and put money away to get something vintage and expand my collection to two!

im kinda leaning with laxer on this as well... as much as i enjoy the Rattler,,, aftermarket performance parts are just not out there... instead of sinking bucks into the Rattler,,, im going vintage as well...

MacJac · Post by **MacJac** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:16 pm

too funny - looks like we're all thinking the same thing. I love my Rat, but - I've had my eyes on a this for the past few months:
http://www.johnnypag.com/motorcycles/bobber/index.php

A nice starter bike lineup for those of us who are newbies to 5-speeds.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:41 pm

I kinda came to the same conclusion (except I don't have a motorcycle). I'm gonna leave my Rat the way it is and put money away to get something vintage and expand my collection to two!

this also how i feel, i have put about 6 thousand into my rat ,after this carb from m/h that is it !!!this my new ride

its good for now

Wheelz · Post by **Wheelz** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:13 pm

well when all else fails, get a china scoot I guess, i mean if your gonna sink money into a scooter it might as well be to keep it running instead of making it faster....

bigbropgo · Post by **bigbropgo** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:19 pm

Bingo.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:56 pm

boy you guys are rough,i guss after 6 grand money is getting ,,well what ever

Wheelz · Post by **Wheelz** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:40 am

JK weezool yer right you've sunk enough money into the rat, I was making a joke at your expense and that is not how we really roll here now is it? Good luck with the new scoot, and getting something vintage to replace it.

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:07 am

I always wanted to get a Chinese scoot just to get crazy with. Performance parts are everywhere and you wouldn't feel nearly as bad about messin' up a $1500 scooter. I have visions of ripping the plastic off and chopping the frame and....well, you get the idea...

--Keys

bigbropgo · Post by **bigbropgo** » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:56 am

thats whats crazy about the cheap gy6. there are like a thousand stores with performance/tuning parts for these things. if you took the time and swapped out everything available you would have a new motor anyway and it might run forever.

then just upgrade the brakes.

hey weezool: it is a small brotherhood of riders that own a rattler/roughouse/pmx. we just hate to see you spend more money on something that is crap. if you bought it knowing it is a beat it and leave it scooter then all is good. if you bought it thinking the color blue rocks and you want to upgrade it and ride it forever, then your in trouble. we are not jerks just straight forward. but if you have a question, someone will always try to help. enjoy.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:44 pm

here are photos of the carb up-grade i did on my rat with a new bb,kit

new

this is a nice add /hopefully no more meltdowns

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:15 pm

NEW BB,K PHOTOS

Scalpel · Post by **Scalpel** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:46 pm

Will that BBK fit the stock Rattler engine? If so, where did you get it? Some of us have been desperate to find a BBK for the Rattler.

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:37 pm

...and the CARB!! An actual carb that is proven to fit! Is it still injector style or pre-mix?

...and what size?

--Keys

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:54 pm

the bb,kit came from sw http://www.scooterworks.com/Malossi_Cyl ... 42C517.cfm the carbfrom mh http://www.mhr-usa.com/catalog.html

B02S4 · Post by **B02S4** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:33 pm

That Arreche 819/3 model carb signifies 19mm with a 2 bolt flange for the PGO intake manifold. Not the best carbs, but they fit. The PGO injects downstream from the carb.

Scalpel · Post by **Scalpel** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:06 am

weezool wrote:the bb,kit came from sw http://www.scooterworks.com/Malossi_Cyl ... 42C517.cfm the carbfrom mh http://www.mhr-usa.com/catalog.html

Damn! I was hoping for a BBK for the 110. Oh well...

bigbropgo · Post by **bigbropgo** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:09 am

How is the clearance? Seems to stick out over the cvt a bit. Looks good though.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:56 pm

it is the same, as far as ,that it sticking out over the cvt,but the higth is taller than stock,so you cant get to the bottom to change the jets easy,gotta remove the whole carb

That Arreche 819/3 model carb signifies 19mm with a 2 bolt flange for the PGO intake manifold. Not the best carbs, but they fit. The PGO injects downstream from the carb.

i under stand that the carb dose not mix the oil ,it mixes downtream in the manifold ,but what i do not understand is 1)how dose this effect the carb ? 2)how dose this effect the performance ?

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:11 pm

here are more photos

B02S4 · Post by **B02S4** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:18 pm

The Arreche semi-curved Racing Air Box would look quite spiffy on that new carb. And guess what - I have one, oiled & ready to go!

PM me if interested.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:43 pm

i looked at those ,but i hear that after market air boxer dont work well with pgo s ? I might look into it when i get this all worked out and things are fine tuned

B02S4 · Post by **B02S4** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:44 pm

Truth be told my bike runs strongest with the Arreche RAB.

weezool · Post by **weezool** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:01 pm

what typr of air box did you go with ?now that is!

B02S4 · Post by **B02S4** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:23 pm

Highly modified OEM box.

BBK

BBK

air breathers