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Take the original manifold and cut the flange off so you have just a pipe with no flange. Take a shortish piece of high pressure hose, comes in short 1 foot lengths from Home Depot. Cut about a 2 inch length off push one end over what is left of the manifold and hose clamp it nice and tight, push the carb into the other end and hose clamp it tight. This works a treat, I have done it many times. The hose will be a very tight fit and almost doesn't need the clamps (almost, use them anyways) You made need to gently tap the hose on and then the carb on with a rubber mallet and it helps if you smear a little 2 stroke oil on the inside of the hose. There you have it, a home made adapter that works great.weezool wrote:HERE ARE THE PHOTOS OF THE CARB AND BB,KIT
Dude, that is effin GENIUS!scootertuner1000 wrote: ...Take the original manifold and cut the flange off so you have just a pipe with no flange. Take a shortish piece of high pressure hose, comes in short 1 foot lengths from Home Depot... Cut about a 2 inch length off push one end over what is left of the ...
jmkjr72 wrote:so if you add oil you have less fuel and you dont cool as much belive it or not on the zuma boards just about everyone that adds extra oil ends up seizing there engines
Yea...the design team for pgo saw a picture of yamaha parts and drew there own freehand....then photocopied that and sent it to a manufacturer.... that was high. He made ten million parts instead of ten thousand. So we are stuck with a copy of a copy of a clone. Quality is fine but still just a close replica.B02S4 wrote:Kinda-sorta, but not exacta; it's more of a bastid knock-off. Few Yammie parts actually direct fit a PGO beyond say a spark plugjmkjr72 wrote: ... your rat buddy and rough house engines are a reproduction of the yamaha engine(yahama owns minerllie so you have a yamaha engine on your scoots)
with as tiny as the jets are in these things it doesnt take much extra oil in the tank to kill itBlackCat wrote:jmkjr72 wrote:so if you add oil you have less fuel and you dont cool as much belive it or not on the zuma boards just about everyone that adds extra oil ends up seizing there engines
My guess is that there is more to the zuma seizures than just adding extra oil in the gas on a kitted scoot. There is 128 ounces in 1 gallon... putting a few ounces of oil in a 1 gallon gas tank, for example, is a very small percentage.
That's because Honda and Yamaha colaberated on both the Minarelli horizontals and the GY6 4t's in the other bikes. The 2t's in the PGO bikes are a HONDA style Minarelli clonebigbropgo wrote:Yea...the design team for pgo saw a picture of yamaha parts and drew there own freehand....then photocopied that and sent it to a manufacturer.... that was high. He made ten million parts instead of ten thousand. So we are stuck with a copy of a copy of a clone. Quality is fine but still just a close replica.B02S4 wrote:Kinda-sorta, but not exacta; it's more of a bastid knock-off. Few Yammie parts actually direct fit a PGO beyond say a spark plugjmkjr72 wrote: ... your rat buddy and rough house engines are a reproduction of the yamaha engine(yahama owns minerllie so you have a yamaha engine on your scoots)
Confused yet? It just drives me nuts how generic the description is that goes with the generic part. Bad enough for the 2t minarelli's but I'm suspect the gy6 is worse. I don't like it......but I understand it. I guess it would only get better if Honda made motors for everybody.Kaos wrote:That's because Honda and Yamaha colaberated on both the Minarelli horizontals and the GY6 4t's in the other bikes. The 2t's in the PGO bikes are a HONDAbigbropgo wrote:Yea...the design team for pgo saw a picture of yamaha parts and drew there own freehand....then photocopied that and sent it to a manufacturer.... that was high. He made ten million parts instead of ten thousand. So we are stuck with a copy of a copy of a clone. Quality is fine but still just a close replica.B02S4 wrote: Kinda-sorta, but not exacta; it's more of a bastid knock-off. Few Yammie parts actually direct fit a PGO beyond say a spark plug
style Minarelli clone
We are not that lucky. Yeah, the GY6 is a lot worst than the Minarelli's. There are AT LEAST 4 different variants of the GY6 that are 90% NON compatible with eachother. Each of these 4 has about a billion clones that match about 75% of the motor they clone. Each of these matches about 50% of the other clones of that variant. Its become quite an art to understand what parts likely will and won't work. It doesn't help that the 125cc Buddy is actually a mix of two type's of GY6's.bigbropgo wrote:It just drives me nuts how generic the description is that goes with the generic part. Bad enough for the 2t minarelli's but I'm suspect the gy6 is worse. I don't like it......but I understand it. I guess it would only get better if Honda made motors for everybody.Kaos wrote:That's because Honda and Yamaha colaberated on both the Minarelli horizontals and the GY6 4t's in the other bikes. The 2t's in the PGO bikes are a HONDAbigbropgo wrote: Yea...the design team for pgo saw a picture of yamaha parts and drew there own freehand....then photocopied that and sent it to a manufacturer.... that was high. He made ten million parts instead of ten thousand. So we are stuck with a copy of a copy of a clone. Quality is fine but still just a close replica.
style Minarelli clone
My problem is its costing to much money to find the right variant.Kaos wrote:Yeah, the GY6 is a lot worst than the Minarelli's. There are AT LEAST 4 different variants of the GY6 that are 90% NON compatible with eachother. Each of these 4 has about a billion clones that match about 75% of the motor they clone. Each of these matches about 50% of the other clones of that variant. Its become quite an art to understand what parts likely will and won't work. It doesn't help that the 125cc Buddy is actually a mix of two type's of GY6's.bigbropgo wrote:It just drives me nuts how generic the description is that goes with the generic part. Bad enough for the 2t minarelli's but I'm suspect the gy6 is worse. I don't like it......but I understand it. I guess it would only get better if Honda made motors for everybody.Kaos wrote: That's because Honda and Yamaha colaberated on both the Minarelli horizontals and the GY6 4t's in the other bikes. The 2t's in the PGO bikes are a HONDA
style Minarelli clone
At least with the Minarelli's you've basically only got the Honda variant and the Yamaha variant, and its not cloned so often, so its not as wattered down yet
I'm trying though. If I get into a gy6 I'll have to pick your brain some. One of these days I'd love to tune a scooter for the track. Give those n.a.s.r.a. guys a run for there money. As always.....all hail kaos. I hear ya there. I've got a whole buncha useless cams that SHOULD have been the right onebigbropgo wrote:My problem is its costing to much money to find the right variant.Kaos wrote:Yeah, the GY6 is a lot worst than the Minarelli's. There are AT LEAST 4 different variants of the GY6 that are 90% NON compatible with eachother. Each of these 4 has about a billion clones that match about 75% of the motor they clone. Each of these matches about 50% of the other clones of that variant. Its become quite an art to understand what parts likely will and won't work. It doesn't help that the 125cc Buddy is actually a mix of two type's of GY6's.bigbropgo wrote: It just drives me nuts how generic the description is that goes with the generic part. Bad enough for the 2t minarelli's but I'm suspect the gy6 is worse. I don't like it......but I understand it. I guess it would only get better if Honda made motors for everybody.
At least with the Minarelli's you've basically only got the Honda variant and the Yamaha variant, and its not cloned so often, so its not as wattered down yet
On that note, someone is giving me a Diamo Retro 50cc 2t with a bum Minarelli clone in it, so I might have more 2t parts advice soon 
