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PGO naked vs Rattler

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:54 pm
by Susan Pegsmen
I had heard a lot of people ask why Genuine didn't just inmport the PGO the way they sell them in Taiwan, and here is why:

Had to convince people that they actually manufacture the bike when they have nothing to do with the build of it, PGO just sell to them.
They shove 10'' wheels on it when PGO supply them with proper 12'' ones.
Installed some stupid ass fuel breather which causes it to vapour lock.
Run the carb lean so it passes emissions tests but doesnt quite run right because of it
insist that the prima pipe is the only aftermarket pipe, despite it being designed for the 50 and adding NO performance what-so-ever, oh and they own the company that makes it.
shady warranty procedures and rather dishonest aftersales services.

The rattler is mighty pricey for the quality, they sell poorly here

Re: PGO naked vs Rattler

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:30 pm
by BGK
Troll.

None of those 'issues' make sense, even if they were translated into proper English.

The admin should trace the IP back to what ever junk dealer felt so inclined to try and spread misinformation.

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:06 pm
by jfrost2
I think it's a bit rude to call the rattler a piece of junk. I've sat on them and seen many of them, they are quality built bikes, and with many MB members owning them, it runs fine.

Just because your being stuck up about the rattler, I think you're purposely ignoring the fact every scooter in today's market has a similar vapor recovery system. Not all, but most, every genuine except the stella, hondas have it, yamahas have it, any bike with the same fuel system can have vapor lock. Yes even the buddy.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:25 am
by ScootLemont
hey troll - get a life

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:06 am
by brimstone
i've been out of the military for a couple years now...but i'm pretty sure that's not a DOD approved avatar. :shock:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:36 pm
by nissanman
I think there are exactly ZERO people in Georgia that would write in that style, let alone someone in the military. It's clearly written in trollenese :P The only "proper" wheel that needs to be used on a scooter is round. Being one of the long time owners of the Rattler... I'd dispute just about everything in the original statement :shock:

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:15 pm
by surfinghankyd
I agree, GET A LIFE!!

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:50 pm
by jmazza
Please don't feed the troll. And yes, this smells like a troll...

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:39 pm
by Evans Performance
there is quite a bit wrong with all of that, but the one that gets me the most is running lean.

runing an engine as lean as you can without missfiring is acctually worse for emissions. there is a fine balance of air/fuel for the best emissions and lean isnt it.

BTW, my rattler runs perfectly so running lean is not an issue here

i do agree with the prima pipe though. Am i the only person trying to make a real pipe for the rattler?

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:58 pm
by Ray Knobs
Evans Performance wrote: Am i the only person trying to make a real pipe for the rattler?
less typing, more welding

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:12 am
by nissanman
Ray says yes...

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:23 pm
by surfinghankyd
I must say, I am anxiously awaiting the pipe. I too, am not very happy with the Prima.

Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:33 pm
by bigbropgo
me three!

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:33 am
by Evans Performance
wow, i didnt know there was so much interest. i wish i could get on it sooner. i have a lot on my plate right now. it is going to have to wait till after november 1st. thats my wedding day and i have way too much money to spend till then to be able to put it towards materials for a pipe. i will update as it goes though

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:07 pm
by surfinghankyd
Congratulations!!

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:27 am
by Evans Performance
thanks,

i started on the expansion chamber today. its about half done. it will still be after nov 1st getting the whole pipe done. i just happend to have the materials on hand already for the expansion chamber. i will post pics when i have the whole expansion chamber done, possibly tomorrow.

Re: PGO naked vs Rattler

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:58 pm
by genuinedealer2009
BGK wrote:Troll.

None of those 'issues' make sense, even if they were translated into proper English.

The admin should trace the IP back to what ever junk dealer felt so inclined to try and spread misinformation.
I saw the same info on the Rattler from a dealer in Taiwan, so it may be true! try www.samuraiscoot.com he has a Rattler

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:33 pm
by Ray Knobs
smelly made a new website?

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:28 pm
by nissanman
Yup, it's a whole new smell :lol:

Re: PGO naked vs Rattler

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:50 pm
by BGK
genuinedealer2009 wrote:
I saw the same info on the Rattler from a dealer in Taiwan, so it may be true! try www.samuraiscoot.com he has a Rattler
Troll #2.

GFY

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:10 pm
by ScootLemont
yeah... i was wondering about the "new" member genuinedealer2009
that popped in all of a sudden...

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:12 pm
by Evans Performance
got the expansion chamber done today. more info will be posted elsewhere. im sure most people know what im talking about

Image

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:47 am
by bigbropgo
at least the name of the new site is pleasant. all im interested in is the big bore. but i didn't want to send money to some guy named SBL.

cool to see the pipe is underway. don't piss off the new wife, make sure that stuff is covered first. :D but thanks for the hard work.

looking forward to the pics. see you on the flip side. :wink: