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it snowed in santa cruz a few years agoTenchi wrote:Darn cold here down in San Jose, too, and the weather-naughts are predicting a possibility of flurries in the valley by Tuesday. Last time we had measurable snow was in 1976 or 1977, I believe. Hopefully, they are wrong (as usual).
Really sorry to hear that happened to you. Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't heard more similar oil filter failures. When the mechanic has to tighten it down as hard as we're hearing it has to be tightened down on the Buddy, that is bound to cause stress on the can, particularly along any seam(s) and crimps.enzomatic wrote:the filter was on right, it just cracked down the side
I hope you are back on the road soon.
I'm sure that's just for the first service, I really cant see how a 10-15 minute procedure would cost $130 dollars.scullyfu wrote:wow! you only charge $40 for an oil change? here in seattle, ducati charges $130!!!pocphil wrote:Doing your own maintenance is great...as long as you do it right. Saving $40 on an oil change isn't worth crashing or buying a new motor.
I saw that the filter was still on tight, I didn't get a great look at it because it was raining and the dealer came to pic it up in a matter of minutes, he says that there was a crack in the filter, didn't say how it got there but suggested that it was a defect in the filter.Dooglas wrote:So, can you share with us the diagnosis of what actually went wrong. If I undertand your earlier posts, this was not a case of the filter coming loose due to improper tightening. Did the filter case split from some inherent defect or was it damaged by the mechanic when it was installed or .............
well, don't be so sure, jfrost. i paid that the last oil change i had and it was the 2nd oil change; the first one was comped. seattle is an expensive kinda town. in many ways, we get to pay for the privilege of living here.jfrost2 wrote:I'm sure that's just for the first service, I really cant see how a 10-15 minute procedure would cost $130 dollars.scullyfu wrote:wow! you only charge $40 for an oil change? here in seattle, ducati charges $130!!!pocphil wrote:Doing your own maintenance is great...as long as you do it right. Saving $40 on an oil change isn't worth crashing or buying a new motor.
I'm with you on this Spinergy. I suggest everyone change their own oil and filter on scooters as well as cars and trucks. How often do you really get up close and personal with your vehicle other than when you change your own oil and check the nether reaches of the vehicle. It's a simple procedure that can be accomplished by the most novice of owners. Besides when was the last time you really spoke with your scooter mechanic? Either they are simple and you are better off doing your own work or they are quite knowledgeable and thus very busy and have no time to talk to you as they are rebuilding an engine from the drive shaft up where their expertise should be spent, not on oil changes. And if you are a commuter worth your salt the frequency of oil changes will necessitate your own oil changes as you won't be able to leave your scooter overnight or for a couple of days. I change my own tires to avoid just such delays. I aint afraid-a-no tire irons.Spinergy wrote:Anyone know what sort of oil pressure these things generate at cruising rpm?? They have a very simple pump so it can't be that much. I've never seen an oil filter crack from a factory defect... but several from overzealous use of a metal band type filter wrench. Interested to learn if these filters are simply soooooo poorly made they're cracking or if it is indeed filter wrench abuse [suspect the latter].
Hate to say it but full time mechanics who do oil changes 'all the time' are the ones most likely to screw up and crimp a filter, fail to tighten a drain plug, or get sidetracked/ distracted and forget to refill the crankcase. Have seen all the above happen from oil change shops to reputable dealerships. If you're working on your baby chances are you'll go slow and double check everything.
Although I bought my Buddy at Scooterworks, I had my first service done at True Imports in Westmont, Illinois. The mechanic that was working on my Buddy stopped working and started talking to a hottie on a Vespa. When I got home (about a two mile trip) I noticed about an ounce of oil on my garage floor below the drain plug. The mechanic never tightened the plug! I was very lucky and learned a good lesson...Do it myself!Spinergy wrote:Hate to say it but full time mechanics who do oil changes 'all the time' are the ones most likely to screw up and crimp a filter, fail to tighten a drain plug, or get sidetracked/ distracted and forget to refill the crankcase. Have seen all the above happen from oil change shops to reputable dealerships. If you're working on your baby chances are you'll go slow and double check everything.
I agree, I do all my own oil changes, except when they are included in the required warranty service. I unfortunately live in a 1 bedroom apt and don't have much room for tinkering, but I usually manage to get a buddy to hold my buddy on the curb so I can fit a pan under it. LOL they should just run some funnel system through the center stand since that's where the oil wants to go anyways.tekrek wrote: I suggest everyone change their own oil and filter on scooters as well as cars and trucks. How often do you really get up close and personal with your vehicle other than when you change your own oil and check the nether reaches of the vehicle. It's a simple procedure that can be accomplished by the most novice of owners. Besides when was the last time you really spoke with your scooter mechanic? Either they are simple and you are better off doing your own work or they are quite knowledgeable and thus very busy and have no time to talk to you as they are rebuilding an engine from the drive shaft up where their expertise should be spent, not on oil changes. And if you are a commuter worth your salt the frequency of oil changes will necessitate your own oil changes as you won't be able to leave your scooter overnight or for a couple of days. I change my own tires to avoid just such delays. I aint afraid-a-no tire irons.
I agree, I do all my own oil changes, except when they are included in the required warranty service. I unfortunately live in a 1 bedroom apt and don't have much room for tinkering, but I usually manage to get a buddy to hold my buddy on the curb so I can fit a pan under it. LOL they should just run some funnel system through the center stand since that's where the oil wants to go anyways.[/quote]enzomatic wrote:.
). And put it on the side stand while you are changing filter and draining. Does not completely avoid the drain on the center stand, but it helps!Yeah it is, I share your pain, my house thermostat is broken too! Snap!Tenchi wrote:Darn cold here down in San Jose, too, and the weather-naughts are predicting a possibility of flurries in the valley by Tuesday. Last time we had measurable snow was in 1976 or 1977, I believe. Hopefully, they are wrong (as usual).
That is very good news indeed. I know that it would be best not to have to endure the hassle, but that is pretty awesome of the shop to loan you a bike while yours is repaired! I'm very impressed with that.enzomatic wrote:Good news is they are lending me an 08 125, had .8 miles on it.
Thats a good idea and a lot of racers do stuff like that to make sure their oil filters and oil plugs don't come off.eldoroddo wrote:Here's what I did this weekend when I changed my oil and filter.
Put a hose clamp on so that it butts up against the skid plate of the oil cooler.
Hopefully, the tin is enough to keep the filter in place so it doesn't back off.
I'll keep an eye on it, nonetheless.
