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Some observations from this weekend on the Blurs

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Well, Sarah and I finally got a chance to get the scooters out on Saturday and actually put some true miles on them. If you haven't been keeping up with us, we recently became the proud owners of a 2008 Pink Buddy 125 with 450 miles on it (hers), and 2 2006 Genuine Blurs. (Blur 1 = 1400 BDU's and Blur 2 = 800 BDU's) (Both Mine :)).

I had only been riding Blur 1 since I got them as it had the good battery in it. However, like most new bikes I get, I wanted to do an oil and gear change on it since it service was at about 600 miles and I really wanted to put fresh stuff in there before I started putting some miles on it. Blur2 had paper work showing it had recently had its 600 mile service during the summer, but had been sitting with the previous owner and had a dead battery. I swapped the batteries so I could ride Blur2 and make sure nothing was wrong with it since I had basically yet to actually ride it other then just hear it start up and run. My initial impressions was that Blur2 was a bit slower, but I figured it was probably still breaking in and having been the wife's scoot she was smaller and probably didn't ride it as hard as the husband had ridden Blur 1. After a short ride, I noticed light oil on the left side of my rear tire on Blur2. I checked and the Oil filter, oil drain plug, etc was intact and everything looked okay, so I figured it was the common overflowed gear oil since it only takes 90cc's. Well, whether I liked it or not, I decided it was time to service both Blur's so I knew I was starting out fresh and had the right amount of gear oil, etc in them.

I picked up some Synthetic Rotella 5w-40 (I use Rotella in all my bikes) and some synthetic gear lube 75W-140. I'm hesitant about going straight 140 in the winter time? maybe in the summer when its hotter? When we bought Sarah's Buddy we had it serviced right away and he recommended 85w-90 for it, so I'm still really learning on all this?

The first thing I noticed was that the drain valve for the gear lube on Blur2 was barely tight, but I hadn't noticed it leaking? Maybe that was where my oil spray was coming from, who knows? I drained what was in there, but it didn't seem like much, but I'm still becoming acquainted with how little 90cc's really is. I didn't bother measuring what came out as I knew what was going back in. I changed the oil & the gear lube on Blur2 and was ready to go play. Blur 1 is going to have to wait to get some love as the sun was out and I was ready to play.

At this point, Sarah and I were going to ride over to my parent's house that is over 30 miles away to show them the scoots, plus stop at a friends house on the way.

Almost immediately once we left the subdivision, I noticed Blur2 seemed to have picked up some speed. Both acceleration and just out right top end. It was quite noticeable and shocked me, but it was all good. At this point, I'm thinking its faster then Blur 1, but I haven't been back on it to compare.

That morning, we had also just mounted a windshield on Sarah's Buddy which I had read should help her pick up some top end speed. Sarah is also only 5'4, 115lbs compared to my 6'4", 220lbs, so she has a lot less weight then me, and from what I've read, I fully expected her to be walking away from me when we play on the scoots together. Infact in the back of my mind, it was one thing that kept making me look at bigger scoots like the Sym HD200 because I was afraid of struggling to keep up with her light weight and fast buddy. Here is what really surprised me though on our ride was that Sarah couldn't touch me. I was pretty much leaving her behind. The only exception is a long hill where I start to loose momentum and she can easily catch up and pass me. From basic acceleration 10-40mph, flat ground running at 60mph and down hill, she just can't keep up. At one point on the Blur, I did hit an indicated 70mph down hill which I hadn't seen on either one yet, so that was cool. Both Blurs now seem to be very comfortable right at 60mph indicated with faster spurts. If its a long up hill, I'll slow to about 50 indicated and thats when Sarah can easily catch me. I don't think her Buddy is slow, but then again I haven't ridden it since I got the Blur's, but I was quite surprised overall. She actually got a bit mad at me at one point when I was zipping through traffic and leaving her behind. I thought in the beginning, she was just being cautious as she got accustomed to the Buddy but she said she was wide open and just couldn't catch me.

BTW, I wasn't even going wide open. I had read in another post about feathering the throttle right at that point where you appear to get the most out of the CVT without over loading the engine and I think that works the best. I tried to explain that to Sarah, but not sure she was attempting that or not?

I'm still thinking maybe her buddy has some breaking in to do at barely 500 miles now, but I gotta say I'm so pleasantly pleased with the Blur's and their handling and speed, etc, and of course the brakes. I do find the seat pretty much sucks and the hump is totally in the worst spot for me. I might look to just have my entire front seat area raised up to match the rear and that will give me some more leg room and allow me to slide forward or backward depending on my mood. The 13" wheels on the blur are nice and I can definitely see where Sarah has to watch the road a bit more carefully with the Buddy's 10" wheels. However her small frame and size, I couldn't see her being very happy on anything larger. She is absolutely in heaven at how easy the buddy is to put up on the center stand and she can flip it around 180 degrees in the garage when she's getting ready to leave. That alone has her tickled pink.

We ended up doing roughly 75 miles that day. My Blur said closer to 100, but we know how that goes.

I do plan on getting a windscreen for my Blur and I already mounted my Givi E-36 case to the rear rack last night so I can keep my laptop dry in the rain. I even rode it into work today even though it was raining when I left and the forecast is expecting 2"+ over the next 2 days.

I actually don't have any pics to share either. I normally always carry my camera, but we left home without it this time.

I'm looking forward to many more rides on the Blur's and I thank those of you that gave your input on here about them before I did buy two of them!
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That oil sheen on your rear tire more than likely came from a weep hole on the wheel-facing side of the final drive case. More than a few folks try to use the "Vespa" gear lube fill method, which is merely adding lube until it starts to dribble out of the fill hole. This is an invitation to disaster on the Blur as anything over the recommended amount of lube will get spritzed out of the weep hole and all over your tire. The imbecile dealer from whom I purchased my Blur made this mistake, and I wound up paying for it dearly, dumping in a turn when the rear completely slid out from underneath me.

Sounds like you're following the book on fluid capacity, which is a good thing. I'd recommend doing a thorough wipedown of the rim, and washing the tire with a good grease-cutting detergent. I even went so far as to put the scoot up on the center stand and have the wife cycle the throttle while I lightly "sanded" the tire with a brick paver.
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Yeah, I figured it was pretty much the weep hole and I've read about all the over filling, so I already knew better.

I did go ahead and clean everything and scrub the tire down. So far it's clean!
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Dear bluelightening, I own a 07 Blur and am also over six feet tall and around 200 lbs. I too found the seat configuration seriously lacking in creature comfort. As you mentioned, the hump in the seat pan makes it terribly uncomfortable for folks of our stature. Long story short, and after three seat modifications that didn't work, I FINALLY arrived at a seat mod that made all the difference in the world. It requires some handyman cutting and modification to the seat pan itself but results in a modification that costs nearly nothing yet yields a very comfortable seat that is virtually indestinguishable from the stock seat. If you would like the full details of the modification and photo's email me at [email protected] and I will forward the details to you. If you are handy at all with tools, the modification can be accomplished in a couple of hours.
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I am definitely interested! I'll send you an e-mail.

One part of me was debating on taking my seat to an uploster and just having the front part raised to the same height as the rear. However, I'm afraid that will make the scooter unrideable for anyone that isn't my height.

If I can do something myself though, that would be great too!
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I've been enjoying the heck out of my Blur and I've been commuting on it everyday since I bought it. Sarah and I even did some grocery shopping last week on the two scoots. It was quite interesting to see the looks we got.

We've had a cold spell come through this week (for us at least) with many mornings forecasted to be near or below freezing. It doesn't bother me, so I still ride everyday, although Sarah has given into temptation and has been driving her 4 wheels lately. Tomorrow morning is supposed to dip into the low 20's and then Friday morning has us forecasted around 12 degrees which will definitely be chilly, but I'll keep on riding.

I decided to jump on the XT225 yesterday though since it was about 29 and I have hippo hands on it and it can run my heated vest just fine which is just so nice and it has totally spoiled me in cold weather riding. The XT is definitely a cold natured beast and it took a few tries to get it to start and stay running. (Keep in mind the XT is just a 225 single cylinder air cooled engine, so not much different then our scoots. It does have a nice wide ratio 6speed transmission though). Sarah and I leave at the same time everyday and she was patiently waiting at the bottom of the drive for me to get my butt in gear and hit the road. Since she was sitting right there, she got to see me make the greatest save as I headed down our driveway and leaned hard into my turn as I hit the street only to have the XT engine practically stall and cause all my weight to go forward and down. I stuck my foot out and saved myself from actually crashing just as the engine picked up again and gave me the engine power I was assuming was going to be there in the first place! As I went down the street, the XT kept letting me know it wasn't exactly thrilled about being out on this cold morning. Even leaving the S/D and then the light just down the street, I have to either keep the choke on full and let it rev way up, or just keep giving it gas so it won't die. Usually by the time I get down the road a ways, it starts to finally settle into a nice idle at stops. The nice thing about the XT though is the stator is able to keep the battery voltage in the green, even with my vest on high. I'm feeling heat before I even leave my S/D and by the time I'm a mile down the road, I'm wrapped up in a nice warm pocket of air. Sometimes I even have to turn the vest down by the time I get to work.

So this morning, I decide I'm going to give the Blur a chance. It wasn't quite as cold at around 32-33 degrees, but the Blur has an automatic choke that I haven't really tested in the cold yet and I was really expecting it to be a bit of beast also. To my surprise, it started up just fine without the slightest bit of hesitation. The engine raced just a bit as it warmed up and I got geared up. I have been hooking up my vest to my Blur, even though I know I'm probably draining the battery, but I like the warmth it gives and the Blur has a back up kick start if I really should kill the battery, but my ride to work is short, so I don't think I will and I keep it on a tender every night to bring it back up. Leaving the S/D and going down the road, the Blur handled things just fine and never hiccuped at all. At the light, I was a bit apprehensive about letting it idle on its own, but it stayed running just fine and I was quite impressed. I will say I can definitely tell a difference in stator outputs though. I didn't even start feeling the heat till way down the road, and it never got as hot as it does on the XT, but I still had some warmth which was nice.

I've also enjoyed just being able to do the twist and go on the Blur. On the XT, I'm definitely running through the gear box, especially with all the lights I hit on my commute. The Blur is the more lazy way with just twisting and going! hehe.
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Call me a Buckhead wuss, but mid 40's are my limit. Heated seats in the ol' Audi feel mighty fine :)
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Haha, he's cheating!

Ok, so that's the voice of jealousy speaking. I don't have any heated gear. My winter gear is a Modular Helmet with a Balaclava, Armadillo Parka (LOVE LOVE LOVE that thing - 30 degrees for 30+ minutes and only a T shirt underneath) Boots, home made lap blanket and some Goretex gloves. The gloves are the weakest link. I've been seriously considering some heated gloves.

It's good to know that the Blur might be able to handle some heated gear.
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Even without the heated gear, I'm bundled up and have some really nice gear to keep me warm and protected. I'm a very firm believer in ATGATT. I've been riding motorcycles for 17 years and just really got into the heated gear last year. My closets in my house are full of gear for all kinds of seasons and riding.

Last year, I decided to go with the hi-viz stuff to start being seen better and that led me to Olympia Motosports. My Jacket is called the "Olympia AST" which stands for All Seasons touring. It has a liner that acts as its own jacket plus both items are waterproof. Underneath that, I wear a windproof/waterproof drytech liner from my summer mesh jacket. It adds another layer of warmth that is very warm and thin. Then under that is my electric vest.

For my pants, I have the "Olympia Ranger2 pants. Again, they have a liner that you can wear as its own set of pants, plus both layers are waterproof and warm.

During the summer, I had the Olympia Air glide Mesh Jacket and Pants, but I crashed in July and they both did their job and I walked away with barely a scratch. I haven't yet replaced them, but I probably will this summer. I've also had a lot of Joe Rocket textile gear over the years and that has worked well.

My winter gloves are the Tour Master Elite which have been some of the best gloves I own. They also have a rain repellent cover that comes out of the cuff and on top of that it adds another layer of warmth on those really cold days.

I have several pair of boots to choose from to keep my feet warm.
My first choice for touring is the Sidi On Road's. They are now made of Gortex, but I have an older pair that used Sympatex. Works just as well. Unfortunately, their price has gone through the roof the last couple years with the exchange rate of the American Dollar. - On Road boots at New Enough.

My other boots are less expensive, but easier to put on and generally wear them everyday.

I wear a Scorpion EXO-700 helmet. I'm on my 2nd one. I'm looking to get the new hi-viz yellow one they have come out with also.
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And something that I have come to love with the Olympia gear is how they make their liners as something that you can wear as on its own. For example, this liner acts as a jacket which makes it nice on trips to wear it out somewhere without wearing your big heavy coat. most liners in coats zip or velcro into the actual coat and are useless without the outside layer -
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Nice review on the gear! It's hard to get tested reviews on equipment and how they relate to scooter commuting here. I guess I ride just a few more minutes past more people's tolerances or I'm a wimp when it comes to cold (which I don't think is the case). The gloves are killing me. That's the single weak point in my gear and it's one of the most vital. If I can't feel the controls, well, that's just dangerous.


Has anyone heard anything about the Rev'it Brands Phase change material? It sound intriguing, but it's expensive. I'm really tired of spending my money on gloves to try them out. It's an expensive hobby (not riding, just glove shopping). I just want non-frozen fingers over the course of a 45mph+ 20-30 minute commute. Is that too much to ask?

Bluelightening, are the Tourmaster elite's that solid? You mentioned that you have like a 3 mile commute. Have you ridden in cold weather with those further? I just want to make sure before I fork out another $100 on a "test", y'know?
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Lostmycage wrote:Bluelightening, are the Tourmaster elite's that solid? You mentioned that you have like a 3 mile commute. Have you ridden in cold weather with those further? I just want to make sure before I fork out another $100 on a "test", y'know?
Yeah, I have a short commute, but I do ride longer on the motorcycle. My hands are my weak link too (actually my feet are, but my hands aren't far behind), but these have been some of the best winter gloves I have owned, and I've tried a lot. If it's below 40, I really don't think there are many gloves that keep your hands that warm at the 30+ minute mark, especially if the rest of you is getting cold too since your body cuts blood to your extremities first.

I generally have heated grips on most of my bikes, but I've yet to put any on my latest Vstrom yet. In the mean time, I have been using a combination of Hippo Hands and the winter gloves on my strom and thats kept my hands comfortable, even in really chilly temps. For me, the best combo on the strom is heated grips with the Hippo Hands, and then you can wear summer gloves and your hands stay toasty warm.

Another trick you might try is a thin pair of silk gloves inside your winter gloves. That works wonders surprisingly.

As for the Elite's, if I ruined them tomorrow, I'd spend $100 on another pair in a heart beat. Like you said, its one of the most important things. I think it would be worth it.
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