My 61mm chrome bore Gmax

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:16 pm

babblefish wrote:Cool picture! It kind of looks like you're power sliding. How fast were you going?

Just about 95...

Thanks...took it with my nikon d300...still familiarizing with the AF settings.

Where checking out the clearance of the center stand as far as much lean we could do..were planning to make a custom center stand.in case if needed

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:32 pm

What was your rationale behind using an A8 cam? Reason I am asking is an ebay seller I have corresponded with suggested I go for an A12. It would be good to know if he's full of it...

Also, did you have any problems with putting the OKO 28mm carb in ie clearance with underseat compartment?

What jettings did you use? Did you have to drill out the carb at all?

I'm not far off going the big bore kit route and any pointers would be great...

As far as we know we can only use A8 or A10 since thats the only available for sale here..also, there is no technical sheet included when we bought it.

I had used OKO brand on my two other bikes...preferably 28mm and never i had trouble with it. Yes...we changed the jetting on the stock OKO...but that would depends on the rollers ,torque spring, clutch spring,gearing installed, you must also check spark plug burn color..

No need to drill the ubox to fit the carb.it fits with still a lot of clearance..what you must pay attention is to buy a down manifold that has a longer neck compared to stock.

Big bore is a must to maximize the full potential of gmax...a 59.5 is a good compromise

r4vi · Post by **r4vi** » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:17 pm

maxG wrote: As far as we know we can only use A8 or A10 since thats the only available for sale here..also, there is no technical sheet included when we bought it.

Ahhh ok - NP

maxG wrote:I had used OKO brand on my two other bikes...preferably 28mm and never i had trouble with it. Yes...we changed the jetting on the stock OKO...but that would depends on the rollers ,torque spring, clutch spring,gearing installed, you must also check spark plug burn color..

No problems - I just read some stuff about redrilling the OKO carbs for 150s on a web page...

maxG wrote:No need to drill the ubox to fit the carb.it fits with still a lot of clearance..what you must pay attention is to buy a down manifold that has a longer neck compared to stock.

Ok, I understand - how much longer than stock and why? I haven't seen different length manifolds. I mean I've seen the aftermarket ones online and I couldn't see any difference in length between ones provided by different online sellers. They did seem longer than the stock one, but not longer than each other...I suppose I could use a longer piece of rubber pipe for the coupling. But as you increase intake length you reduce throttle response (but increase torque don't you?)

maxG wrote:Big bore is a must to maximize the full potential of gmax...a 59.5 is a good compromise

Do you mean 58.5mm? A 58.5mm big bore kit would equate to 155.36cc. I think the sizes are 58.5mm, 59mm, 61mm, 63mm - with the 58.5 and 59mm fitting into the standard case. Is there really that much advantage in going up 8-10cc?

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:11 am

No problems - I just read some stuff about redrilling the OKO carbs for 150s on a web page...

--you only drill them if theres no compatible jetting available...say...you just need a bigger hole but doesnt need to be the next size

making the jetting smaller is easier, we just apply strands of copper wire depending on the tune up requirements

Ok, I understand - how much longer than stock and why? I haven't seen different length manifolds. I mean I've seen the aftermarket ones online and I couldn't see any difference in length between ones provided by different online sellers. They did seem longer than the stock one, but not longer than each other...I suppose I could use a longer piece of rubber pipe for the coupling. But as you increase intake length you reduce throttle response (but increase torque don't you?)

--i cant really say for sure..i got this photo for you as for referrence...it is very difficult to buy online...for one..you cant see what you are buying [ visual inspection is a must before purchase is a must just to be sure it fits well

Do you mean 58.5mm? A 58.5mm big bore kit would equate to 155.36cc. I think the sizes are 58.5mm, 59mm, 61mm, 63mm - with the 58.5 and 59mm fitting into the standard case. Is there really that much advantage in going up 8-10cc?

--then ill advice to go for 59mm..port and polish it, buy a bigger carb or if you can an MTRT A8 racing cam spell a very big difference in acceleration

top speed would be between 125-130 though youll get there quicker

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:16 am

@ r4vi

check this out:

this is my gmax acceleration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXfa9P_H ... re=related

and this is my top speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugjr6-487uU

and this is my carb tune up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED3dkfIpwyM

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:24 am

new add on:

DCR kick start

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:36 am

my gmax 2008 facelift

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:50 am

had my muffler buffed

cost: $13

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:55 am

rear mudguard version 1

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:32 am

That looks awsome!

$13 to buff the muffler? That would cost more like $130 around here...

Question: What are the diameters (in mm) of your front and rear brake discs?

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:00 pm

babblefish wrote:That looks awsome!
$13 to buff the muffler? That would cost more like $130 around here...

Question: What are the diameters (in mm) of your front and rear brake discs?

hi, its:

260mm front
245mm rear

Corsair · Post by **Corsair** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:03 pm

too dope

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:01 pm

maxG wrote:
babblefish wrote:That looks awsome!
$13 to buff the muffler? That would cost more like $130 around here...

Question: What are the diameters (in mm) of your front and rear brake discs?
hi, its:

260mm front
245mm rear

Thanks maxG. One of my suppliers said he could get me 260mm or 280mm front discs so I wanted to see what a 260mm looked like.

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:45 am

Thanks maxG. One of my suppliers said he could get me 260mm or 280mm front discs so I wanted to see what a 260mm looked like.

Does the disc include a dedicated bracket mount?

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:33 pm

maxG wrote:Thanks maxG. One of my suppliers said he could get me 260mm or 280mm front discs so I wanted to see what a 260mm looked like.

Does the disc include a dedicated bracket mount?

Yes. It allows me to mount my OEM brake caliper or a Brembo.

atomicsky · Post by **atomicsky** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:59 pm

Have to admit that u did a great job on this scooter and I really joined this forum just for few questions...
1. I'd like to know if these mudguards are universal and how did u mount them on your block of the engine??

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:29 pm

1. I'd like to know if these mudguards are universal and how did u mount them on your block of the engine??

the mudguard i would assume can be universal if....

..you know how to make a dedicated bracket.

originaly, sym jet scooters have them...

then somebody had an idea from taiwan that i can be fitted on the gmax as well

Farmer-dk · Post by **Farmer-dk** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:31 pm

hello can you tell me from what adress are you buying parts

ddddd001 · Post by **ddddd001** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:51 pm

i m from malaysia,
may i know which country can i get this part?

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:18 pm

Many parts come from Taiwan I know, a few of them he has o n his bike look like NCY branded parts, they can be found easily in taiwan, but others you'd have to ask him.

YANKEE DOODLE · Post by **YANKEE DOODLE** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:47 pm

Any DYNOTEST results on this modifications ?

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:05 pm

YankeeD,

It looks like you're a very firm believer in Dyno testing. Since you only have a Blur as well and it looks like you've looked into getting parts for it, I imagine you've taken your bike to get Dynoed before. Can you post the Dyno results from your 200cc G-Max so that we have a baseline comparison?

I can PM you the name of a guy in Taiwan who might be able to change your mind about weather the upgrades are worth it. As I recall, he's got a Blur 200cc but he also has a Yamaha Zuma 125cc. He kinda sells parts for the Zuma a lot these days. Unfortunately, he's really got in in for ModernBuddy because of some transgressions in past posts. I guess he didn't realize that not all of use here are anti-performance, just cautious. If he'd only had kept a more level head, he could have a pretty decent client base, assuming he could have come down on the prices and maybe provided some more info about them. Just let me know, assuming you haven't been in contact with him before.

There's also a number of places on Ebay that can offer decent deals and some of them are willing to find out the compatibility of parts across different brands. It's a slow process sometimes and options are limited, but they exist. It all really depends on what we want to do with our bikes.

So, yeah. Let's see the Dyno results! you've got me curious now.

Thanks!

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:45 pm

YANKEE DOODLE wrote:Any DYNOTEST results on this modifications ?

All you can ask for is Dyno test Dyno test dyno test. It gets annoying when every post made is about dyno tests. Cant you understand people put mods on their bike for their own enjoyment, even if the cost isnt worth the modification, it isnt like everyone who wants a mod is trying to race like you do all the time.

I for one think maxG's gmax is one of the coolest there are, so what if it isnt as great as your Yamaha zuma. Not everyone wants to have performance in a bike, sometimes the shape or look of a bike can really catch people's eye.

Heck, even if there isnt a dyno test done, slapping on a muffler onto a bike will make the bike faster and more powerful, but like I said, it's not like everyone needs to dyno test everything, they arent really racing....

Btw, those mirrors he has on the bike, they look like tanex japanese mirrors, or honda zoomer aftermarket mirrors

maxG · Post by **maxG** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:59 pm

i remember seeing a 200cc gmax with a FAKE DCR exhaust

OH DEAR..

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:19 am

Since YankeeD seems to be so against the Blur/G-Max, and since this is a Blur/G-Max forum, I vote to ignore him and his negativity.

So, does anyone here know where I can get parts that will make my Blur slower? A dyno sheet proving the part's slowness has to be included.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:40 am

I think if you wanted to make it slower, you could just stop riding it.

I used to think that the Blur was slower than my Buddy 150. After I got the Blur back on the road, I realized that it's almost the same. I didn't Dyno it or anything, but I'm fairly sure that I thought the Buddy was faster because of the smoothness of the Blur.

Maybe I'll pull out the little G force gauge (I forget the name of it) that I used in my RX-7 when I had it. I'd have to install a lighter plug adapter, but that's kinda like a poor man's dyno, right? It's not the speed, it's the ride. Actually, that's not a half bad idea. I just have to remember where I stashed it...

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:44 pm

I dunno, the stock bike itself is a rocket already, adding performance parts to it makes it EVEN faster. Who cares about Dyno testing when after a red light, you're half a mile away and passing the cars within seconds.

hi2525 · Post by **hi2525** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:34 am

I will have to look for that. I don't believe it is possible

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:04 am

hi2525 wrote:I will have to look for that. I don't believe it is possible

I think you lost me there..... there's been a lot of talk about a lot of things. What are you going to look for?

I hate it when these threads get hijacked by trolls. It's hard enough to find quality performance parts for the Blur, crap like Yankee's nay saying is just annoying.

hi2525 · Post by **hi2525** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:42 pm

I am referring to babblefish's statement about parts that make it slower and my first find is the obvious ether really light roller weights or really heavy roller weights. Still looking.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:19 pm

Aww, man! Now this is the exact opposite of the direction I was hoping this thread would go! Maybe we should make a new thread:

Unpimp my Blur!

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:44 pm

When he says mods slow down the bike, he is joking because Yankee likes to be a troll and complain about performance parts not serving the addition of power gain to the cost of the part. But really, most of us can agree, if it makes it faster, that's something to be happy about.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:15 pm

Yes, jfrost2 is right...I am joking because my Blur doesn't need any help going slower.

I'm actually pretty happy with the performance (especially the handling) - I just want a little more top end for when I jump on the freeway. If I wanted sportbike performance, I'd just go out and buy another sportbike. Although...I am thinking hard about either the Yamaha TMAX or Kymco Xciting 500Ri for longer distance trips. Both are liquid cooled, fuel injected and 500cc.

YANKEE DOODLE · Post by **YANKEE DOODLE** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:02 pm

There's no such thing as free horsepower,a simple bolt on modifications on a 150 cc scoot wont perform like a 200 cc scoot.

If the thread starter can produce a dynograph that theres a power & torque gain on his modification that can equal or exceed the power & torque gain of a 200 cc then that proves that the money that he spent on parts & labor was well worth.

Performance or Placebo ?

,There's a reason why they discontinue selling the 150 cc Blur in the U.S,comparing a stock 150 cc to a 200 cc ,the 200 cc is a much better scoot.

I bet the T.S ( max-g)cannot show a dynotest because he does not have one or hes embarassed to show that his expenses on parts & labor does not justify the power & torque gain.

Maybe the parts cost more than the scooter itself.

Also his 150 cc g-max is the same with the Blur 150 cc,they are both non EFI,like mine.

Also i'm not a wannabe racer that puts a lot of sticker in my scooter,

,it looks like a walking advertisement that companies dont pay.The word cool is subjective.

Troll ?Heres my G-MAX 200 CC,all stock.

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:09 pm

Anyone can post a picture of someone elses bike and claim it their own to justify their reasonless post.

I really think you need to just back off and quit attacking others. Anyone can put anything on their bike if they like it, you're going a bit overboard every time you respond back.

To tell the truth, you yourself are afraid to post your own dyno test, you probably dont even have one, just like you accuse maxG. Quit trolling on others when you yourself havent shown your own crap.

charlie55 · Post by **charlie55** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:18 pm

I hate to tell you this, but it looks like someone over in Japan may have stolen your scooter.....

Here's a link to the suspects:

http://www.scs-tokyo.co.jp/pgo/g-max200.html

and here's a link to your scoot:

http://www.scs-tokyo.co.jp/pgo/g-max200 ... 00_007.jpg

Better run out and check your garage....

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:36 am

I thought I'd seen that picture somewhere before!

Thanks for "exposing the troll".

What a dweeb! Is calling someone a "dweeb" considered name calling?

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:34 am

That's why I said "posting someone else's scooter picture" in my previous post, I knew about that site and remember seeing the same picture. No way this guy is japanese.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:14 am

World traveler too, He mentioned going to the motorcycle show in LA previously. (with his 200cc Gmax...) Sure, OK.

Listen, Yank, can I call you Yank? Maybe this isn't the place for you. I really don't think you're going to sway anyone's opinion. Aren't there a ton of other boards you can troll on? I mean, kudos for making some efforts in whatever the case it was that you're making. It's really just a waste of time.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got somewhere to get slowly. Hopefully you've got somewhere to get to as well.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:12 am

Oh, and by the way, here's a picture of my scooter. It looks almost like yours, except it's the other side....did that make any sense at all?

We must have bought our garage doors from the same place too, because yours looks just like mine.

Lostmycage · Post by **Lostmycage** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:27 am

I'm no expert on this, but doesn't that CVT cover look a little on the small side? Maybe like the 50cc G-Max? I mean, proportionally, it should be bigger, right?

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:59 am

The 50cc G-Max has a drum rear brake, 3-spoke 12" wheels and a different muffler (it's a 2-stroke) so no, this shouldn't be a 50cc scoot.

I think we've beat-up on Mr. Yank enough. Besides, he sounds like someone very young so let's give him a chance to make a useful contribution to this forum...and if not, we can always choose to ignore him.

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:10 pm

Could be a picture of the new NASA designed engine on the bike, the engine is smaller and last much longer because of the materials it's made of, NASA and PGO recently worked together to redesigned the bubu engien to create the new "iBuBu", the size on the ibubu is still the same, and mechanics too.

This yankee doodle guy seems to be a fake who knows nothing abut performance or scooters. I'd doubt he even has a Yamaha too. I've asked 3-4 times now for Dyno results, and he refuses to post, why? Because he's a liar and cant show real results, because he doesnt even have the bikes he claims to own.

hi2525 · Post by **hi2525** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 6:48 pm

Lostmycage wrote:I'm no expert on this, but doesn't that CVT cover look a little on the small side? Maybe like the 50cc G-Max? I mean, proportionally, it should be bigger, right?

I agree with you

beelzebubbles · Post by **beelzebubbles** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:24 pm

babblefish wrote:I think we've beat-up on Mr. Yank enough. Besides, he sounds like someone very young so let's give him a chance to make a useful contribution to this forum...and if not, we can always choose to ignore him.

I think maybe his name is "Yank", as in "Yanking your chain"

I guess the Blur forum's arrived if someone feels threatened enough to try trolling about in it... not that we particularly like having any trolls around.

Yes, let's all just ignore the trolls, until they decide to log in as themselves and start contributing something useful or enjoyable (or at least get themselves a spellchecker).

jmazza · Post by **jmazza** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:52 pm

I love modernbuddy! Even trolls here get community policed- it makes a mod's job very very easy!

We've got our eye on Yankee Doodle and I agree he/she has been called out on the carpet enough. Let's keep this discussion happy, productive and nice according to our posting guidelines and like beelzebubbles said, trolls always leave as soon as no one cares about them.

Or not, and eric will just ban him/her.

OH- did you all see this pic of me on my new Stella??

No really, that's me!

YANKEE DOODLE · Post by **YANKEE DOODLE** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:42 pm

Some forumers cannot handle the truth,the truth of worthless modification just to make a slow scoot looks faster.

Oh that sticker will also make that it runs like a hayabusa...tsk..tsk.

Oh well,no dynotest no proof thats me,aesthetic it looks good for riders who likes rice.

Some forumers has multiple acccount just to make it look good that they dont post on this thread.

babblefish · Post by **babblefish** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:37 pm

Whatever...

hi2525 · Post by **hi2525** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:56 pm

I am going to put money into my blur for one main reason I enjoy riding it. That makes perfect sense to me.

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:03 am

YANKEE DOODLE wrote:Some forumers cannot handle the truth,the truth of worthless modification just to make a slow scoot looks faster.

Oh that sticker will also make that it runs like a hayabusa...tsk..tsk.

Oh well,no dynotest no proof thats me,aesthetic it looks good for riders who likes rice.

Some forumers has multiple acccount just to make it look good that they dont post on this thread.

Sorry but no dyno test no results. We cant trust your remark about parts slowing scooters down when you cant even provide dyno test results you conducted personally. You're a fake and a liar. You dont own a yamaha or a gmax. You come here to troll.

Modern Buddy

My 61mm chrome bore Gmax

mudguard

Re: mudguard

thanks for your information