5 bud7 wrote:Eric, the information about ridegear from the forum members is exactly what people should exchange . Are you on the forum to be guardian angel for the dealers or to help the scooterest make wise decissions>
Uh... excuse me? I don't feel the need to remind members of this often, but before you go accusing me of being a shill for dealers, you might do well to remember that I am not just "on" the forum, I own it and am responsible for setting and enforcing the rules and maintaining the tone. I have no problem with people exchanging their stories and did nothing to prevent or suppress that. If I'd wanted to, I could have closed the thread. And, if you'd read what I actually wrote, you'd have seen that I was in no way defending or playing guardian angel. I have never shied away from criticism of dealers or retailers (or, for that matter, Genuine) provided that the members aren't ranting or venting and aren't using the forum to attack someone. However, I would like any reports to be as fair and factual as possible and for any accusations to be substantiated.
The two matters discussed in this thread are totally different. The first was obviously the result of a crappy website which didn't function properly. Ridegear made good on the problem in the original case, but didn't fix the site so the problem persisted.
"Sleazy," to me, implies that they're intentionally trying to rip people off for their own financial gain. At worst, the problems reported here indicate rampant carelessness and incompetence, but we have no indication that they were knowingly scamming customers.
As is, I'm unlikely to buy from them (especially online) and wouldn't recommend them to anyone based on these complaints.
But as I said before, let's not make unsubstantiated accusations about their motives. Sucky customer service? Sounds like it. Evil? Eh...