how many miles on the buddy until its starts to break down

bjj4287 · Post by **bjj4287** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:07 pm

like with a car its about 100,000 miles.. wat about the buddy 125?

chadc · Post by **chadc** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:25 pm

Tough question to answer, will depend on maintenance, riding style, storing of scooter, etc. A car built today better last more than 100,000.

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:26 pm

one hundred, BILLION miles!!!!

I actually have no idea...

bjj4287 · Post by **bjj4287** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:29 pm

well not literally breaking down... but when u hit 100,000 u start getting some problems

jmazza · Post by **jmazza** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:30 pm

I think we've got a few here that are into or close to 20k. They just haven't been out that long to have many with more miles on them.

From what I've read it's definitely not as many as a good car but the engine can be rebuilt for a small amount of money. As for body/frame integrity, I don't know that either.

As I was researching scooters I was a bit disappointed to hear of lower total mileage amounts.

EP_scoot · Post by **EP_scoot** » Wed May 21, 2008 8:31 pm

I think the Buddy is only 3 years old in the US. Based on some members here that are well past 15K, they are still going strong. With proper maintenance and care and keeping it stock I don't see a reason why it shouldn't go past 50K.

Maybe the fellows from Asia that are members here can talk about the PGO model over there.

xtetra · Post by **xtetra** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:08 pm

I asked someone at Genuine a similar question before I bought mine. He mentioned in addition to oil changes, making sure you have your valves checked every 4k (or 5k?....says in the book anyway.) and adjusted if necessary.

Right now I'm nearly at 2,500 with no complaints.

MikieTaps · Post by **MikieTaps** » Wed May 21, 2008 9:36 pm

I know that on motorcycles you are supposed to have Valve Adjustments every 4,000 miles or so... closer to 1,500 on most Ducatis... crazy Italians...

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:50 pm

Lou76 has over 20,000 miles on his. The only breakdown was due to a maintenance issue rather than the Buddy's fault.

--Keys

illnoise · Post by **illnoise** » Thu May 22, 2008 12:54 am

Properly maintained and ridden regularly, it will last until long after people have lost interest in scooters and you can buy a used one with 220 miles on it on Craigslist for $800 and swap the motor.

heavypetting · Post by **heavypetting** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:02 am

Yeah, and you can't do a valve job on a Ducati yourself, without going insane.

jfrost2 · Post by **jfrost2** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:48 am

There are old members who last reported 30,000 miles, and still going. Still runs strong.

Some here have over 10,000 and still going strong. I think maybe once you hit 50,000 you need to replace some parts or buy a new scoot.

Post by **ericalm** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:50 am

illnoise wrote:Properly maintained and ridden regularly, it will last until long after people have lost interest in scooters and you can buy a used one with 220 miles on it on Craigslist for $800 and swap the motor.

You're all about the scooter bust!

But yeah, proper and timely maintenance is the key. Oil changes, valves, belt, rollers, even tires. It all adds up.

I think the key is to put 50K miles in the first two years. That way anything that may happen will still be on the warranty. And if it dies at two years and a day, well, you got a lot more miles per dollar out of that scoot than you would have out of a new car that you put 100K miles on.

No that doesn't really make any sense. Just humor me.

xtetra · Post by **xtetra** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:26 am

No that doesn't really make any sense. Just humor me.

Many a day I wish I could just pass by work and keep riding. Not that I hate my job, I just love my scooter. Scooting beats AutoCad any day. Maybe someone makes a ScooterCad program

gt1000 · Post by **gt1000** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:53 am

MikieTaps wrote:I know that on motorcycles you are supposed to have Valve Adjustments every 4,000 miles or so... closer to 1,500 on most Ducatis... crazy Italians...

Bikes in general are fussier and need more frequent servicing than cars but the mileages above are grossly pessimistic. The service interval on 2007 and newer Ducatis is 7500 miles, before 2007 it was 6000. Ducati twins, especially the 2 valve models, are known for their longevity. I know several Ducati owners who have had their valve clearances checked every 6000 miles and never actually needed an adjustment. 4 valve Ducatis have the same interval but servicing is much more expensive.

Bike engines are subject to stresses that are more intense than car engines. Some, like BMW boxers, are known for their ability to exceed 100,000 miles but you're going to pay dearly to keep that bike running sweetly that long.

Look at it this way. A nicely equipped Camry or Accord is going to cost you about 30K new. That's 10 times the cost of a Buddy. Most Accords and Camrys will probably return 120K before needing serious attention. You see where this is going right? 12000 miles. Once you pass 12K, the rest is gravy.