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ericalm Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: Buddy 170i Production Pics |
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mattgordon Member
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Very cool, thanks for sharing! Those 170's ae going to be a segment leader.
Looks like they ditched the kickstarter....finally.
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easy Member
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that silver with the black stripe sure looks good _________________ what did you trade the day for?
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ericalm Site Admin
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Howardr Member
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easy Member
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i think it would need juice from battery to control and work the fuel injector no fuel no start _________________ what did you trade the day for?
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jrsjr Moderator Emeritus
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| easy wrote: | | that silver with the black stripe sure looks good |
I agree. I thought I was going to be all about the British racing green, but that silver/black combo really looks good in the photos, doesn't it?
Thanks for posting these pics, ericalm, it's really exciting to see the new Buddys rolling off the assembly line. I can't wait to ride one!  _________________ The future is a foreign country: they do things differently there. -apologies to L. P. Hartley
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PeteH Member
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I seriously need one of those brown/tan seats and matching grips on my Italia.
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Dooglas Member
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| ericalm wrote: | | Kickstarters aren't a good idea on FIs. Someone on MV explained this to me and it made perfect sense; I just can't remember the explanation. |
As I understand it, the problem is the fuel pump on an FI bike. It has to reach full pressure for the bike to start and run properly. A kick starter really doesn't accomplish that.
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Outcold43 Member
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Looks like some different variations in the front row of the 3rd pic.
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Syd Member
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I didn't know Frosty went to Taiwan?  _________________ I myself am Thoroughly Educated, and I
say that puns display genius.
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BuddyLicious Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Outcold43 wrote: | | Looks like some different variations in the front row of the 3rd pic. |
Not sure,are the scoots just behind the gray ones the green ones? I swear they look like black paint with white/gray stripe.
Probably the pic deceiving us huh?
I dont care they are REAL! They are happening!  _________________ Aerosmith, None Other.
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Tocsik Member
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Damnit. Please stop. My scooter is in the shop again (bearings!) and I have been dreaming of the Blur 220i but my twins are starting college next year.
I just bought 2 high-end laptops and tuition is gonna be a bitch.
I don't have the money for this but the silver one calls to me!!!! _________________ .::I know the voices in my head aren't real, but man do they come up with some great ideas::.
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Raiderfn31 Member
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I would love the 170I(In silver of course, Im a Raider fan!), but I cant justify the extra 500 bucks or so over the Buddy125 for what I need to do. And Ive always been of the opinion to be sceptical of the first year of a model of vehicle of any type. It may be different with the 170I since they may have been in production in Taiwan for awhile, but I dont know. Still my commute is only on a 45mph posted road, so a Buddy125 makes sense. Thanks for the pics Eric! _________________ "When your lawyer looks at you like you deserve whats coming, you may begin to sweat."
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pugbuddy Member
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YAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!  _________________
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pugbuddy Member
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YAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!  _________________
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Raiderfn31 Member
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| Tocsik wrote: | Damnit. Please stop. My scooter is in the shop again (bearings!) and I have been dreaming of the Blur 220i but my twins are starting college next year.
I just bought 2 high-end laptops and tuition is gonna be a bitch.
I don't have the money for this but the silver one calls to me!!!! |
TWINS IN COLLEGE Congrats! As far as the 170I goes....Im sure you can get better deals down the road a bit so be patient. _________________ "When your lawyer looks at you like you deserve whats coming, you may begin to sweat."
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gearhead Member
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Ohhh so sick. When are they going to be able to be purchased in the states?
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JHScoot Member
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i hope the paint looks a little less flat in person. especially the silver
there, i said it
maybe this is "matte" silver or flat metallic? w/e.... _________________ When the planet hit the sun I saw the face of Allison
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mattgordon Member
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| ericalm wrote: | | Kickstarters aren't a good idea on FIs. Someone on MV explained this to me and it made perfect sense; I just can't remember the explanation. |
They aren't much use on 4t Vespas or Buddys....more decorative than functional imo.
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TVB Member
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| mattgordon wrote: | | ericalm wrote: | | Kickstarters aren't a good idea on FIs. Someone on MV explained this to me and it made perfect sense; I just can't remember the explanation. |
They aren't much use on 4t Vespas or Buddys....more decorative than functional imo. |
I never would have thought to describe the kickstarter as "decorative". _________________
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babblefish Member
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Agreed. Since our scooters are automatics, bump starting is not an option so I've had to kick start a scooter because of a weak battery. _________________ Life is like a savings account; you can only withdraw what you put in, but hopefully with a little bit of interest...
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jasondavis48108 Member
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Since the FI scoots don't come with a kick starter, does anyone know how you would go about getting a FI scooter started if the battery gets too weak or is that what roadside assistance is for? _________________ "Only the curious have, if they live, a tale worth telling at all" Alastair Reid
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jprestonian Member
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| jasondavis48108 wrote: | | Since the FI scoots don't come with a kick starter, does anyone know how you would go about getting a FI scooter started if the battery gets too weak or is that what roadside assistance is for? |
Jumpstart off a car. Just make sure the car's engine isn't running.
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jasondavis48108 Member
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| jprestonian wrote: | | jasondavis48108 wrote: | | Since the FI scoots don't come with a kick starter, does anyone know how you would go about getting a FI scooter started if the battery gets too weak or is that what roadside assistance is for? |
Jumpstart off a car. Just make sure the car's engine isn't running.
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could you jumpstart off another running scooter? I would imagine you might just kill the other scooters battery but hey, if they have a kickstarter then alls good right
What I really want to see is little mini jumper cables made just for scooters, that would be hilarious in the same way it is hilarious to see little kids with wing tip dress shoes and bow ties  _________________ "Only the curious have, if they live, a tale worth telling at all" Alastair Reid
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TVB Member
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| jasondavis48108 wrote: | could you jumpstart off another running scooter? I would imagine you might just kill the other scooters battery but hey, if they have a kickstarter then alls good right  |
When you jumpstart off a non-running vehicle (scooter or car), you're effectively just borrowing their battery... but without going to the trouble of taking it out of their vehicle. So you could even jumpstart from another non-running scooter if you wanted to. The danger is that their battery might not have enough juice left after starting yours to start their engine, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. Still, a fully-charged Buddy battery should have enough juice in it for more than one start (like you'd do if you stalled just after starting).
On the other hand, if the other scooter is running, you're not drawing the power from its battery at all; you're getting the power from the other scooter's engine. This is just like the recommended procedure for jumping car-to-car, but with less current involved. So unless there's something funky with the electrical system that I don't know about, it should work fine. _________________
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jasondavis48108 Member
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BootScootin'FireFighter Member
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mattgordon Member
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| TVB wrote: | | mattgordon wrote: | | ericalm wrote: | | Kickstarters aren't a good idea on FIs. Someone on MV explained this to me and it made perfect sense; I just can't remember the explanation. |
They aren't much use on 4t Vespas or Buddys....more decorative than functional imo. |
I never would have thought to describe the kickstarter as "decorative". |
If anyone remembers the tranny cases cracking on the ET-4 and other 4T scooters as a result of trying to use the kickstarters, which were primarily a styling clue harking back to the 2t scooters. It was widely considered a "do not use unless absolutely neccesary" on those scooters, and I consider it the same on the Buddy 4t.
2t is much more "kickstart friendly" than 4t.
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Mulliganal Member
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2t is much more "kickstart friendly" than 4t. |
Why is that? _________________ ".....Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us......"
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JHScoot Member
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^ my guess is because a two stroke "fires" faster or quicker or in 2 less revolutions or something like that?
but its just a guess because i have no idea and it makes half sense to me
am i right, people? and if so, what do i win?  _________________ When the planet hit the sun I saw the face of Allison
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jmkjr72 Member
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yeah you have a few issues with kickstarts on fi bikes
first off the fi system needs a good constant voltage and if you have a weak or dead battery you wont have this with kickstarting
also if your battery is weak your fuel pump may not be able to prime the system
and if your battery is dead you may not make engough juice kicking it over to run all the ele stuff needed for the fi system
and thats pure bs that kickstarts are not very 4 stroke freindly
the fly wheel start they used on tractors for ever and a day and what about hand starting the old cars thats all the same as a kick start
the advantage that a 2 stroke has on kickstarting is you can feel when you are on the comprsion stroke to kick it over easire then you can on a 4 stroke _________________ z 2008 zuma 50
olive 2008 setlla
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JHScoot Member
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^ that whole compression stroke thing? is that why when i have attempted to kick start my scooter it just seems vague? its a 4 stroke. doesn't seem close to anything even happening. doesn't make much sound. no grunts or anything _________________ When the planet hit the sun I saw the face of Allison
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GrittyTacoman Member
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| BootScootin'FireFighter wrote: | | in the 3rd picture, they look like a strike force all lined up and preparing for an invasion! |
I had the same thought! Looks like they're ready to start kickin' butt and taking names. On second thought, forget the names.
Excited to hear the reports back on what they're like to ride.
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rv-rick Member
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Funny thing. I was just on ADvrider and one guy was talking about using the 12 volt battery from his cordless drill with a pair of small wires to add enough juice to start his bike.
We're talking 200-250 cc bikes; not hogs.
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mattgordon Member
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| Mulliganal wrote: | | mattgordon wrote: |
2t is much more "kickstart friendly" than 4t. |
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Because your kicking much more machinery (moving parts) and at half the opportunity for fire....its more work, and "half" lthe possible ignition cycles.
Go on Modern Vespa, search "ET-4 kick start" and enjoy the posts.
Heres a quote from MB's own admin on the very subject:
"Now I've actually removed the kickstart lever and keep it stored in my pet carrier. That's how useless it is. With a Battery Tender hookup, I have no need for it as I can easily jump start the scoot. Except last time I needed tothe battery was too far gone. Pfeh."
I'm not saying it cant be done, Im saying neither you, nor your 4t scooter will tolerate a regular diet of kick-starting. It's a retro styling cue with very limited real world functionality.
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| jasondavis48108 wrote: | | jprestonian wrote: | | jasondavis48108 wrote: | | Since the FI scoots don't come with a kick starter, does anyone know how you would go about getting a FI scooter started if the battery gets too weak or is that what roadside assistance is for? |
Jumpstart off a car. Just make sure the car's engine isn't running.
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could you jumpstart off another running scooter? I would imagine you might just kill the other scooters battery but hey, if they have a kickstarter then alls good right
What I really want to see is little mini jumper cables made just for scooters, that would be hilarious in the same way it is hilarious to see little kids with wing tip dress shoes and bow ties  |
Yes you can. We've jumpstarted my husband's Fly 150 off of my Buddy 125 in the past. I just gave the Buddy some gas when he turned the key to deliver a little more juice. _________________ Past bikes: '07 Yamaha Majesty 400, '07 Piaggio MP3 250, '08 Piaggio MP3 500
Current bikes: Two '09 Genuine Buddy 125's, '08 Aprilia Scrabeo 500ie.
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| Tocsik wrote: | Damnit. Please stop. My scooter is in the shop again (bearings!) and I have been dreaming of the Blur 220i but my twins are starting college next year.
I just bought 2 high-end laptops and tuition is gonna be a bitch.
I don't have the money for this but the silver one calls to me!!!! | Which on of your 3 scooters nee bearings! Not the 08 Buddy I hope?
As far as the new 170i as a mechanic and engineer I recommend taking advantage of the Buddy 150 clearance sales going on becasue while ideally the FI model should be superior in overall performance, low maintenance, and cold starts, the first year model could see some some issues since this is not a Japanese production product where research and development removes 99% of all bugs. I would wait till after the 1st year production and recalls.
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TVB Member
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| BootScootin'FireFighter wrote: | | in the 3rd picture, they look like a strike force all lined up and preparing for an invasion! | It's the plastic armor.  _________________
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350kmi Member
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I was thinking about 'first model year' issues with the FI Buddies as well, but I seem to recall reading that PGO has been selling Buddies (by other names) with FI for a couple years in other world markets. I wonder if the US market fuel injection system is different enough from systems already in use that there would be many bugs to work out. Also, the US Blur has been using FI for a year already.
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BuddyLicious Member
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| 350kmi wrote: | | I was thinking about 'first model year' issues with the FI Buddies as well, but I seem to recall reading that PGO has been selling Buddies (by other names) with FI for a couple years in other world markets. I wonder if the US market fuel injection system is different enough from systems already in use that there would be many bugs to work out. Also, the US Blur has been using FI for a year already. |
I'm confident with these new FI Buddies,it's not like PGO just started out down this road for the first time.Also when I think of "new model year" I'm thinking of an entirely new unit never offered to the public before.The 170 Buddy is what 90-95% unchanged from the 125 & 150's.In this case were looking at an established model with some mods,certainly not a new model year as commonly understood. _________________ Aerosmith, None Other.
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babblefish Member
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| CWO4GUNNER wrote: | | As far as the new 170i as a mechanic and engineer I recommend taking advantage of the Buddy 150 clearance sales going on becasue while ideally the FI model should be superior in overall performance, low maintenance, and cold starts, the first year model could see some some issues since this is not a Japanese production product where research and development removes 99% of all bugs. I would wait till after the 1st year production and recalls. |
I wouldn't worry too much about "first year model" from PGO. The U.S. is pretty low in the scooter food chain because we're at least 10 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to scooters. I'm sure PGO has been selling fuel injected scooters for a while in other parts of the world. _________________ Life is like a savings account; you can only withdraw what you put in, but hopefully with a little bit of interest...
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Raiderfn31 Member
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| CWO4GUNNER wrote: | | Tocsik wrote: | Damnit. Please stop. My scooter is in the shop again (bearings!) and I have been dreaming of the Blur 220i but my twins are starting college next year.
I just bought 2 high-end laptops and tuition is gonna be a bitch.
I don't have the money for this but the silver one calls to me!!!! | Which on of your 3 scooters nee bearings! Not the 08 Buddy I hope?
As far as the new 170i as a mechanic and engineer I recommend taking advantage of the Buddy 150 clearance sales going on becasue while ideally the FI model should be superior in overall performance, low maintenance, and cold starts, the first year model could see some some issues since this is not a Japanese production product where research and development removes 99% of all bugs. I would wait till after the 1st year production and recalls. |
I believe I covered that earlier _________________ "When your lawyer looks at you like you deserve whats coming, you may begin to sweat."
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KRUSTYburger Member
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| mattgordon wrote: | | Looks like they ditched the kickstarter....finally. |
You know you can take yours off easily, if you don't like the way it looks. Mine's off right now but it has saved my butt a couple times in the past when the battery was dead. _________________
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ericalm Site Admin
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| babblefish wrote: | | CWO4GUNNER wrote: | | As far as the new 170i as a mechanic and engineer I recommend taking advantage of the Buddy 150 clearance sales going on becasue while ideally the FI model should be superior in overall performance, low maintenance, and cold starts, the first year model could see some some issues since this is not a Japanese production product where research and development removes 99% of all bugs. I would wait till after the 1st year production and recalls. |
I wouldn't worry too much about "first year model" from PGO. The U.S. is pretty low in the scooter food chain because we're at least 10 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to scooters. I'm sure PGO has been selling fuel injected scooters for a while in other parts of the world. |
This isn't a first year model in this sense. PGO has been making essentially the same (but different displacement) FI scooters for several years now. _________________ Eric // Flickr group // LA Scooter Meetup Group // twitter: @scooterism // ScooterFile
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 Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 2431 Location: Philly '06 Buddy 125 & '78 Vespa P200E & '63 Allstate 125
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I love the silver with black racing stripes. It looks very retro 1980s, almost like a Transformer.
Also: I really doubt they've done away with the kickstart. They are shipped with the lever unattached so it doesn't snap off in transit. That's one of the things dealers do when prepping a new scooter. The spot where the lever goes is visible in the photos. _________________ ModBud #442 @PhillyScooters
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