Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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I just got my new Heidenau 110/80-10 and 130/70-10 in from az scooter parts and both are over 6 years old.

What is everyone’s opinion on tire age?

The NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) says tires expire in six years.

The British Rubber Manufacturers Association “strongly recommends� that all tires should be replaced 10 years from the date of manufacture and that unused tires should not be put into service if they are more than six years old.

I don’t mind getting tires a couple years old but 6?

It is my belief that they should not of been sold that old without disclosing it.
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I would send back any tire sold to me as "new" that is more than 18 months old, and would expect the seller to pay return shipping. I've never ordered from that shop but it's good to know how they treat their online customers. I've ordered tires from AF1 Racing, Scooterwest, Scooterworks, and SIP-Scootershop in Germany, and never gotten a tire more than 11 months old.
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It's unconscionable. IANAL, but I would say it borders on criminal negligence. Thanks for outing the offender. I'll never buy a thing from them.
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Has anyone bought tires from parts for scooters.com?
I was thinking about trying a set from the, but I am worried that I will get old tires again. I sent a support request to parts for scooters.com so hopefully they respond.
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If you are going to buy off the internet check out www.revzilla.com they have good prices, free shipping on orders over $40, and they sell enough tires that they shouldn't have old tires sitting around.
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My local tire store will not service any tires 7 years old or older for liability reasons. I replace tires on my scooters when they reach 5 to 6 years old if they haven't worn to the wear bars yet. I'd return those and demand they pay the shipping.
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scootERIK wrote:If you are going to buy off the internet check out www.revzilla.com they have good prices, free shipping on orders over $40, and they sell enough tires that they shouldn't have old tires sitting around.
That's where I've gotten my tires, they were 6mos old when they showed up at my door.
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scootERIK wrote:If you are going to buy off the internet check out www.revzilla.com they have good prices, free shipping on orders over $40, and they sell enough tires that they shouldn't have old tires sitting around.
I looked at there website and was going to get them there but they don’t have the front tire in stock and it said one to two weeks for the shipment of the front. They have the back in stock.

Anyone have experience with the one to two weeks handling time, is it accurate?
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Rdrett wrote:
scootERIK wrote:If you are going to buy off the internet check out www.revzilla.com they have good prices, free shipping on orders over $40, and they sell enough tires that they shouldn't have old tires sitting around.
I looked at there website and was going to get them there but they don’t have the front tire in stock and it said one to two weeks for the shipment of the front. They have the back in stock.

Anyone have experience with the one to two weeks handling time, is it accurate?
Give them a call, their folks on the phone have been great every time I've needed to talk to them.
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The first distributor that sent me old tires was supposed to get back with me today but never did. I placed an order through revzilla and I am going to tell the first distributor that I want to return them for a refund.
Hopefully revzilla sends fresh tires.
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Update:
AZ Scooters issued a full refund and told me not to worry about returning them.
I am pretty sure they were drop shipped by parts for scooters.com.

Apparently they both have excellent customer service.
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eggsalad wrote:It's unconscionable. IANAL, but I would say it borders on criminal negligence. Thanks for outing the offender. I'll never buy a thing from them.
You presume that it was done with intent to sell shady goods. I assume you've never worked in a business with new hires, or folks pressed for time. I can easily envision a situation where a parts clerk didn't know to check the date code, or simply forgot. If the shop's management then made it right, then call it a day.
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Stanza wrote:
eggsalad wrote:It's unconscionable. IANAL, but I would say it borders on criminal negligence. Thanks for outing the offender. I'll never buy a thing from them.
You presume that it was done with intent to sell shady goods. I assume you've never worked in a business with new hires, or folks pressed for time. I can easily envision a situation where a parts clerk didn't know to check the date code, or simply forgot. If the shop's management then made it right, then call it a day.
A mistake doesn’t matter to me, what they do to fix it is all that counts.
Everyone makes mistakes. Most likely they don’t check dates on the tires. AZ scooters had them dropped shipped so they had no ideal.

The fact that they issued a full refund and told me to keep the tires shows that you cannot ask for anything more.
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Re: Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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Rdrett wrote:What is everyone’s opinion on tire age?
I would never recommend anyone trying this but last year I did an experiment with a set of 10 year old tires just to see how they would ride. The tires were the OEM Cheng Shin C922 with ~1,500 miles of wear that had been sitting in my garage for a several years. After mounting them it took about 200 miles to wear off the outer layer of rubber. During those miles I took it easy because the tires felt a little twitchy. After wearing off that outer layer the tires felt like a fresh pair of C922. I was able to lean over far enough in the corners that I could some scrape the sidestand. Stopping and wet traction were also similar to a fresh C922. About the only real difference was that they didn't last near as long as my other C922 tires did.
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Just check for any visible cracks and splits in the rubber. If there are none then wipe them down with some rubber treatment and then do as scootERIK said. I've never had any problem doing that. And if you're a conservative rider then more the better (for the tires). I'm not a conservative rider...
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Re: Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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I know this thread is from the summer, but thought I'd share my experience rather than start a new one.

I just mounted some Continental tires from 2017. I had always heard five or six years is the maximum life (mounted or unmounted).

I did raise this issue about the tires being four years old at this point but, Continental considers them "new" as they say tires on the shelf need to be mounted within five years and then are good for an additional five years. I think they are also hinting that the five year rule may be stated by distributors to get people to buy tires more frequently. I didn't realize this was such a hotly debated topic, but it seems like most people on this thread think four year old tires are old?
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Re: Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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mukaiboston wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:08 pm
I know this thread is from the summer, but thought I'd share my experience rather than start a new one.

I just mounted some Continental tires from 2017. I had always heard five or six years is the maximum life (mounted or unmounted).

I did raise this issue about the tires being four years old at this point but, Continental considers them "new" as they say tires on the shelf need to be mounted within five years and then are good for an additional five years. I think they are also hinting that the five year rule may be stated by distributors to get people to buy tires more frequently. I didn't realize this was such a hotly debated topic, but it seems like most people on this thread think four year old tires are old?
Don't you ride a lot? From your previous posts I would assume that you will wear the tires out before they get old enough to "go bad."

I wouldn't want to ride 5 year old tires that have spent their whole life outside in the sun, but if they have been stored inside I would have no problem running them. I am currently running a 12 year old tire on my scooter with no issues, I can even scrap the centerstand in the corners. The main thing I notice when running old tires is that they wear faster then fresh tires, and old tires need more miles to "scuff in".
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Re: Tire age? New tires over 6 years old.

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I pay no attention to the date on my tires. If they hold air, and there are no cracks or damage, I ride them until they are bald. I just replaced the 12 year old front tire on my Burgman because it was bald. I have a 2007 C3 here, that has the original front tire on it. It's important to check your pressure on a regular basis. A 10" tire can be down to 12lbs and still look full.
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