is this a fair price???

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:41 am

i found a buddy 125,2009 at a dealer that has 564miles- it was there demo scooter. sales tax in this county are 8.25% and being that bigger cities are harder to access becuz of the mountains etc around here...things tend to be a bit pricier...not to mention its a tourist town. Anyway, this dealer only had the one buddy 125 and so i asked them if they would sell me THat one. i guess the wait for more buddys is tied up in customs??? so when new one's might arrive was not certain. brand new they would get 3700 they said. Being used,as the demo, they offered it to me for 2980 out the door. this would include all tax,dmv, 2yrwarranty...others i cant recall but basically i can hav it for that price out the door. asked her to throw in a nice 90 helmet and she agreed.(originally i tried offering 2500 and it was denied)-initially i didnt want to spend more than 1500 on ANY scooter-then went up to 2000 limit. this new price seems high to me consdiering what i originally wanted to spend. can anyone tell me if there is a better way to go? or is this my best bet and im i getting a good price??? thanx

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:53 am

its nearly the same OTD price as a "new" one, here. however 2009 "leftovers" are still sold as "new" with zero miles on them. this one is a demo so i think should have a deeper discount then one or two hundred dollars imo. i have seen no miles 2011 125 Bud's priced at barely over $3000 otd with 8% tax and all. some have gotten the new "Psycho" 125's for $3200 plus change otd. so

....imo it is barely fair. get it if you want one. also know this: Genuine is giving away free "bling" packages with the sale of leftover 2009's for some models. if the scooter is sold as NEW. if 125's qualify you may be eligible

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:56 am

Yep.

Is there a used one - somewhere, sometime - cheaper? Yes, possibly

In that kinda shape, with full warranty? Nope.

Mazeltov!

juls64 · Post by **juls64** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:31 am

I don't think its a very good deal. I just got Fireball, a 2009 125 Buddy with 165 miles on it for $2400 out the door. It was used (previously titled) so I did not get the warranty. I did get a windshield, front and rear storage racks, 2 battery tenders,a green light trigger and a helmet included in that price. Also a rainsuit that was for someone much smaller than me. I was also given the original bill of sale and all the original paperwork
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PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:42 am

Does Illinois OTD include all the stuff, specifically taxes and registration/titling and plates, that California does?? Factor all that stuff in before comparing.

If I recall from when I lived there for a year, Illinois plates were $$$, too.

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:44 am

Well, there ya go. Which is why I'm not rich. Dont listen to me; listen to these guys.

But whatever deal you make, get the warranty!

juls64 · Post by **juls64** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:01 am

PeteH wrote:Does Illinois OTD include all the stuff, specifically taxes and registration/titling and plates, that California does?? Factor all that stuff in before comparing.

If I recall from when I lived there for a year, Illinois plates were $$$, too.

Yes, tax, license, etc.

juls64 · Post by **juls64** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:04 am

redhandmoto wrote:Well, there ya go. Which is why I'm not rich. Dont listen to me; listen to these guys.

But whatever deal you make, get the warranty!

I do not think the warranty is transferrable in the event the OP buys one used.

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:06 am

3700? Is that after taxes and stuff? That seems high to me. For an older model with miles on it. Would you be getting the manufacturer's warranty? If not, I definitely would not pay that much.

Think about this: The MSRP of a brand new, 0mile, fuel injected Buddy 170 is $3,299 (according to Genuine's website). AND they're supposed to be rolling them out in the International colors...

MSRP for a 125 according to Genuine's site is 2700, NOT 3700. I can understand a couple hundred tacked on for taxes, but NOT a whole grand. Especially under these circumstances. Sounds like a ripoff to me. I think they are trying to make money off of you because it's the ONLY 125 they have and you want it. Don't settle. As a Genuine certified dealer they should be able and willing to call up Genuine and have the color/model you want ordered and shipped there (albeit, there may be a charge to you for the special order).

pdxrita · Post by **pdxrita** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:43 am

That does seem like a high price for a scooter with that many miles on it. The only redeeming feature of buying it from the dealer vs. buying it from a private party would be if the warranty still applies. Maybe it does because it's a dealer owned test bike, but I'd double and triple check on that since the warranty is normally non-transferable.

Have you been keeping an eye on Craigslist for used Buddys? If you haven't, I'd suggest hanging tight and watching for one. I'd also suggest being open to going into the Bay Area and bringing one home on a trailer or truck. Renting a U-Haul and buying used in the Bay Area would probably be cheaper than paying a jacked up price in SC. You'd also save some of the licensing fees if you bought used (though I don't recall exactly how that plays out in California - I've been gone from there for a while now).

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:01 am

juls64 wrote:
redhandmoto wrote:Well, there ya go. Which is why I'm not rich. Dont listen to me; listen to these guys.

But whatever deal you make, get the warranty!
I do not think the warranty is transferrable in the event the OP buys one used.

Roger. I was assuming, of course, that he could make a bargain with a dealer for a NOS leftover or demo...Get the warranty!

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:47 am

redhandmoto wrote:Yep.

Is there a used one - somewhere, sometime - cheaper? Yes, possibly

In that kinda shape, with full warranty? Nope.

Mazeltov!

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:59 am

thanx bunches to all who replied... deal DOES include 2 year warranty...price was 2980 out door incl all taxes etc n dmv stuff..im assuming thats plates n registration?? anyway..chic who selling it is wife of husb n they own this dukati dealershp...she seemed super fair n legit..i hit her up for this one cuz it only 125 there n i figurd since it the demo ide get sum$ shaved off.. she said NEW they go for 3700 out door..now im not sure bout all this other stuff regarding customs but ive ben made aware that there seems to be sum hold ups w getting new shipments of scooters thru customs..she said that these 2009's sat in customs for a year b4 they cleared...she also broke down the fees for me 250 for this n 250 for that..assrmbly-freight etc n i get that..yes i ben on c list and bay area too and not a whole lot out there..and remebr i DID get her to throw in a 90$helmet...

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:03 am

kellysmith wrote:
redhandmoto wrote:Yep.

Is there a used one - somewhere, sometime - cheaper? Yes, possibly

In that kinda shape, with full warranty? Nope.

Mazeltov!

uh huh. Your point?

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:09 am

dont really kno how to use this forum...response is just above your copy...dint mean or need to include that it is just where i entered in b4 i knew where to properly do so

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:09 am

ok Kelly imo (unqualified) shipping, freight, etc should not come into play. "new" warranty. sold "as new?" fine

but they used it for over 500 miles

i have NO idea what people pay for scoots where you live or from where they buy, but $3700 for a Buddy 125?

maybe four or five years ago

my dealer has them NEW (don't know the year) for around $3000 OTD

just saying. $3700 is not a fair reprensentation of the market most places

the deal you are getting? still fair, considering. BUT, i think over priced by $400, at least

still, its a good scooter, like new, warranty, and it is less then new, if only by a couple hundred dollars

so i say buy it if you want it. or offer $2500 and tell them to call you. bet they do

if you have not bought it already

also, if truly NEW you should qualify for THIS. pretty sweet

http://www.genuinescooters.com/springbling.html

$300 in FREE stuff from Genuine

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:12 am

thanx jhscoot...dont 4get that THEY offered me the used for demo price -at 2980$-NOT the original asking of 3700$

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:16 am

kellysmith wrote:dont really kno how to use this forum...response is just above your copy...dint mean or need to include that it is just where i entered in b4 i knew where to properly do so

Ah! Gomen-nasai! Yep, JH is correct...I'd follow his suggested tactic for seeing if there ain't more wiggle room.

'Round here, I've gotten used to hardball capitalism and haven't seen dealers willing to cut anybody much of a deal, leftover, demo, or not.

The sad tale about bikes being held captive in a customs shed at the end of a crumbling pier for a year is certainly colorful, but....you know what they say: Buy the Scoot, Not the Story.

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:16 am

thanx for that site referral! will chk out! also, i
DID offer her 2500 and she crumpled her brow...saying they already dropping frm its initial new price by 720$...mayb i will try holding bak..just want it 8 hours ago!!!!!!

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:18 am

i understand asking price. but it is a $2700 scooter. $2600 in '09. i THINK!

the pricing is because its a motorcycle dealer, most likely. they pile on fees

that said, and just for instance a new Buddy 170i with fuel injection is around, oh....$3700-$4000 otd these days

a couple years ago my mom paid $3800 OTD for a special edition Blackjack 150. the 125's? they were $3000 OTD

so is it worth what they are asking. darn it....yes because its a GREAT scooter!

could you get a better price from them if you want? i have a feeling you could

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:18 am

kellysmith wrote:thanx bunches to all who replied... deal DOES include 2 year warranty...price was 2980 out door incl all taxes etc n dmv stuff..im assuming thats plates n registration?? anyway..chic who selling it is wife of husb n they own this dukati dealershp...she seemed super fair n legit..i hit her up for this one cuz it only 125 there n i figurd since it the demo ide get sum$ shaved off.. she said NEW they go for 3700 out door..now im not sure bout all this other stuff regarding customs but ive ben made aware that there seems to be sum hold ups w getting new shipments of scooters thru customs..she said that these 2009's sat in customs for a year b4 they cleared...she also broke down the fees for me 250 for this n 250 for that..assrmbly-freight etc n i get that..yes i ben on c list and bay area too and not a whole lot out there..and remebr i DID get her to throw in a 90$helmet...

2980 is an okay price OTD. OTD (out-the-door) price means it includes taxes, title and registration fees generally... as in, your dealer should take care of registration and title with DMV for you and you shouldn't have to pay anything else to the DMV- just wait for the vehicle title in the mail and get the plates from somebody.

Get a breakdown of how they came to the 2980. Find what they are charging you for the actual vehicle + plus the taxes and title and registration. According to the Genuine website, 2799 is MSRP for a brand new Buddy 125. This Buddy has miles, but not THAT many miles... it sounds like they knocked off 100 or 200 from MSRP for you, because taxes alone have to be at least that with almost 10% state tax, right?

A $90 helmet is a nice freebie... depending on what kind of helmet it is. Is it a half-helmet? Don't bother. Brain buckets aren't worth a damn. If she's going to throw in a helmet make sure it's one that's actually worth wearing, that will actually protect you (I sound harsh, but I survived a crash that I certainly wouldn't have wearing a half-helmet two months ago)

ALSO

Customs has NOTHING to do with Buddy's. Genuine's HQ is in Chicago. There is no such thing as a Buddy shortage. They probably just don't want to order any more. Why the hell would they charge you freight? Scooter was already there.

AND

Your dealer's wife is COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT when she tells you that she could get 3700 for one brand new and personally I think you should politely call her on it. Like I said, the only Buddy that could possibly OTD at that price is a brand new, 0mile, 170i... and the MSRP is still 400 dollars less that that- 3299. She may not be trying to swindle you- she may just be the wife of a Ducati dealer and doesn't know dick about scooters.

(Sorry guys... had to say it... wifey sounds like a total ijit...)

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:23 am

hahahahah so funny redhand!!!!! good advice n suggestions!!! so grateful for everyones input as my father who lives in Naples Fla and owns sum 7000$ collectors vespa is all leary and thinking this "Buddy" he not familiar with-ThaT and the fact he's a bizness man himself...he questioning all the same things as afformentioned by all your replies...so doing my research as thoroughly as poss b4 i shell out 3gz

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:25 am

LunaP wrote:
Your dealer's wife is COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT when she tells you that she could get 3700 for one brand new ...

Heh heh; our esteemed colleague LunaP has used the insider's term for frowning, wrinkly-foreheaded salesperson posturing.

(psst! Luna! What're you doin' up?!! Ain't you 'spose be recouperatin' n' stuff?)

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:26 am

kellysmith wrote:hahahahah so funny redhand!!!!! good advice n suggestions!!! so grateful for everyones input as my father who lives in Naples Fla and owns sum 7000$ collectors vespa is all leary and thinking this "Buddy" he not familiar with-ThaT and the fact he's a bizness man himself...he questioning all the same things as afformentioned by all your replies...so doing my research as thoroughly as poss b4 i shell out 3gz

i think you're doing the right thing by being prudent and diligent. w/e you buy just make sure its a quality scoot. the buddy is, but there are others, too. and other Buddys

but don't order a scoot off the internet!!

this deal is NOT special, however. they want you to think it is, but it is not

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:34 am

thanx Lp..ya he at home sik n she running the show n had to run whole thing past him to gimme quote- this is my 1st big purchase- keep in mind this is SANTA CRUZ COUNTY CALIFORNIA where EVERYTHING is priced high ONLY for that reason. just dont get ANY shady vibe frm her AT ALL.
but mayb i dont hav that customs story totally rite? that n the brk down of charges which sheDID SHOW me- just so much info i didnt retain it all. What i DO kno is i called this other place n they said they sold out and they didnt kno wen they'd be getting new one's in cuz of import issues...2 totally diff places on opposite sides of county...and the latter was a tiny place in the mountains

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:44 am

redhandmoto wrote:
LunaP wrote:
Your dealer's wife is COMPLETELY FULL OF SHIT when she tells you that she could get 3700 for one brand new ...
Heh heh; our esteemed colleague LunaP has used the insider's term for frowning, wrinkly-foreheaded salesperson posturing.

(psst! Luna! What're you doin' up?!! Ain't you 'spose be recouperatin' n' stuff?)

...myes... but I slept til like 3! My sleep schedule is a little off...

this is snack time! Fun fact, they say I need the calorie intake of a runner right now, despite being sedentary

Anyways, Kelly, I fully endorse your choice of a Buddy, however, while this deal doesn't sound like a BAD deal, it doesn't sound like a GOOD deal, either.

Here's other things to consider: ask this dealer how many other Buddys they have sold, how often they service them. Their lack of knowledge about Genuine products makes me suspicious that their shop may not best the best place to take them. Do you ride anything else? Have you dealt with the shop or had anything serviced here before? Do you know anybody that has? Is it your only option as far as a dealer/service station if you buy a Genuine bike? Go to the Genuine website and use the dealer locator, see who else is near you- even if they don't have what you want in stock, they may be willing to match this dealer's OTD price and ship it in. Or maybe not, BUT if there's another shop nearby that can service your scoot, you'll know you have options if you become unhappy with this one.

The other problem I have with this lady outright telling you untruths about the MSRP of that Buddy is that she's obviously misinformed about the product and does not care to fix it. How many other things is she misinformed about, and are in your favor or hers? It's just unsettling to me. But I'm spoiled when it comes to shops.

The freight charges and stuff... I remember a thread here months ago about them... I think it's different from state to state whether dealers can charge customers for them or not, so maybe I'm wrong about that, it just seems odd to me. But I know what she said about customs is redonkulous.

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:53 am

itsa reputable dealer-in biz for 18 yrs-nope to other transpo etc...been on a cruiser w/o gears for 9 months and my feet b4 that ...hey -did you crash on yer scooter???

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:55 am

i agree with Luna for the most part

i don't want to say the dealer is trying to get over on you. as luna says its not a BAD deal....but not a GOOD one

lets just say it greatly favors the dealer and in this case of a Buddy with 500 miles on it, a '09...it should favor YOU

you can visit the dealer again and let them know of your research and trip here to ModernBuddy

let them know you have been informed of pricing, model years, and what the market is getting for these scooters. tell them no way would they get $3700 for a 125 Buddy today. no way!

you could even buy a used one with 3,000 miles on it for $1800 or so. and that $1200 you saved would fix w/e repair it might need or even get you a whole other scooter!

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:58 am

looks lik they are the only Geniune dealer ...went to Genuines site and the one frm which im pursuing is the only one that came up but at least its listed right?

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:00 am

kellysmith wrote:itsa reputable dealer-in biz for 18 yrs-

I once, to my eternal shame and regret, sold cars at an "established dealership" of 25 years' standing...ya buys the scoot, not the story...knowhahaymsayin'?

(@Luna ~ yep, I once spent 11 months in the hosp after giving birth, sort of, & via c-section, to a '68 Honda 305...the days, the nights go by, the nurse drifts in with the Demerol, and floats away again...snacks, Demerol, the tv...it's all a blur...)

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:01 am

kellysmith wrote:looks lik they are the only Geniune dealer ...went to Genuines site and the one frm which im pursuing is the only one that came up but at least its listed right?

lemme look around for you, kelly. real quick. SC, Ca, right? ok

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:03 am

hmmmm... wonder wy she was saying they only could get 2009's or that newer models not accessable????

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:06 am

your awseome!! thanx...am i allowed to tell you name of this dealer??? feel kinda bad cuz i felt she was on up n up and what if she really is???

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:10 am

and maybe im restating sum of this stuff a little off kilter??? swear im TRYING to be rite on key but i COULD be possibly not entirely accurate...dont wanna falsely represent the wrong details that were given to me...leaving this open for 'maybe' errors

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:17 am

ok what the hell i can find NO Genuine Scoots in the SFB area? wtf!

all other kinds, but only one theft recovery Buddy

anyway what about other makes?

looky here

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/2939047729.html

offer $1500 idc how "firm" he is

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/mcy/2911585282.html

offer $1700

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/2934392657.html

how about a big scoot for 3K?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/mcy/2926080871.html

wow shopping for scoots in the SF area is some tricky business

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:21 am

SAN FRANCISCO SCOOTER CENTER!!!!

http://sfscootercentre.com/?forsale=buddy-125

http://sfscootercentre.com/?page_id=62

http://sfscootercentre.com/?page_id=98

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:23 am

JHScoot wrote:Genuine is giving away free "bling" packages with the sale of leftover 2009's for some models. if the scooter is sold as NEW. if 125's qualify you may be eligible

The free bling ($300 of accessories) offer is through April 15th only, per the Genuine Scooter website (if this scooter, being a loaner sold as new qualifies).

I recently bought a 2009 Buddy 125 and it qualified.

IF the scooter qualifies, this $300 worth of accessories may or may not make the difference between it being a good deal to you.

Just more info for you to think about.

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:24 am

and over in Chico...

http://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/2934967844.html

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:27 am

michelle_7728 wrote:
JHScoot wrote:Genuine is giving away free "bling" packages with the sale of leftover 2009's for some models. if the scooter is sold as NEW. if 125's qualify you may be eligible
The free bling ($300 of accessories) offer is through April 15th only, per the Genuine Scooter website (if this scooter, being a loaner sold as new qualifies).

I recently bought a 2009 Buddy 125 and it qualified.

IF the scooter qualifies, this $300 worth of accessories may or may not make the difference between it being a good deal to you.

Just more info for you to think about.

yes i did consider that. makes it more tempting. but the "bling" is supposed to be free. if you want the bling, yes. sweeter deal can be reasoned. but if not? hmm.....

redhandmoto wrote:and over in Chico...

http://chico.craigslist.org/mcy/2934967844.html

oh good one

$1800

$1700, even

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:38 am

kellysmith wrote:and maybe im restating sum of this stuff a little off kilter??? swear im TRYING to be rite on key but i COULD be possibly not entirely accurate...dont wanna falsely represent the wrong details that were given to me...leaving this open for 'maybe' errors

Dealer lady may not be TRYING to be shady... she may just not know her shit, like I said. Either way, she's not conducting good business/giving you good customer service... or a good deal.

And you don't have to tell us the name... me? Doesn't matter I'm on the other coast... everybody else on that coast may be able to figure it out already without you naming it XDD

We have many members over there in Cali. Apparently redhand and I are the East Coast night owls

redhandmoto · Post by **redhandmoto** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:39 am

^oh, yah. Hell, if I could do a fly n ride...

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:03 am

WOW!THANX for alla that research! i chkd on clist justa few hours bak and didnt come across alla those! but those wont hav warranties...now ive also thought that these reputable 'buddys' might or shouldnt need to much warranty use correct??? this dealer said theyve never hadda lemmon! wen i went to GENUINES site, my dealer was listed there...in soquel, a tiny suberb in santa cruz. mayb thats wy you not see it! DANG guys(you are guys rite?) i just want someone to tell me i should defintly go for it cuz i wanted so badly to be riding TODAY! i kno its ALWAYS best not to purchase in haste, i just wish i could hav it all down on how to effectively sway my research for stronger arguements sake!!! wish i was as learned as my chat friends.

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:05 am

kelly do you like this sort of thing

http://sfscootercentre.com/?forsale=psy ... ed-edition

uc, that is a special Buddy. MY dealer here in L.A has them for around $3400-3500 otd. others have gotten them for less. and this is a special edition 1 in 174 model. only 174 were made. and they are plated with the number

so do you think that plain 'ol '09 Buddy with over 500 miles is worth just a few hundred $$$ less at $3000? i think maybe not

here is my dealer add

http://www.nohoscooters.com/news/2012/0 ... ddy-psycho

pretty sure he OTD them for just over $3500. but he would most likely do what some other dealers are doing. which is selling for less. and that is no secret among scooter folks

so yes, look around at options IF spending $3000

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:08 am

my biggest issue is spending all my savings. can easily save again. i make money each day i work. will also be able to expand my self with this new transpo and even get another job now...hav been so limited and restricted..i actually liv 14 miles south of santa cruz in watsonville...so this will enable me to kikit in santa cruz-beaches-mountains- parks- meet ppl etc...what to do what to do.... hope i make rite decision in the end

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:14 am

well if finances are an issue i do think you can find a GREAT used scooter for under $2000. some have been posted here already. feel free to ask about any of them. one or another here will always want to talk scoots with you. its just that sort of community

you don't need to resort to a chinese scooter, however. pretty sure you know that.

i mean i am not bashing them i think they are fine for light duty and even more. IF you are lucky. if not? ugh

so look used, too. Buddys are tough. The Fly 150 is good. but upkeep is pricier. much, i think? its Italian, you see

and those Yamaha Vino's will go on and on and on....

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:25 am

thanx AGAIN!!!! you ALL hav been super helpful- i deFINItly feel waY moRE informed...if time is money this is one time i might end up giving into it-

DaBinChe · Post by **DaBinChe** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:33 am

Kellysmith:

There is a Genuine dealer in San Jose, they are located on San Carlos near Bascom.

I would not buy the used one at the Santa Cruz dealership. They are known to be a price gouger...but you are right it is SC after all.

My question for you is are you set on a buddy? Cause I would also suggest a Elite110. I got my Elite at Hollister Honda for $2600 OTD in December of 2010, they should cost even less now. Ask for John or Neal in sales and get a OTD price quote. They'll give you that right over the phone.

I'm in Aptos twice a week and if you want to try out my Elite let me know. You do have a moto license, yes? I commute from San Jose to Aptos on the Elite all the time, 80+ mile round trip. Sometimes I take it on 17 from Los Gatos all the way to Vine Hill when in a crunch for time otherwise I take Summit and Old San Jose/Santa Cruz/Soquel.

edit:
do not buy a chinese scooter!!!!! I've worked on too many and you are just asking for trouble with one. You'll have a very expensive yard ornament if you get one.

kellysmith · Post by **kellysmith** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:43 am

ok....... DAMN!!! finally someone familiar to this area...so you kno who im dealing with???? SUCKS!!! was getting dead set on finishing w them ...no license yet....not too concerned w this detail altho i understand its importance and neccessity... just not worrying boutit rite now...you really make that kinda commute ona scooter???? crazy!!! kinda wy im only trying to go w the125 tho you see??? keep me OFF the high profile roads...

DaBinChe · Post by **DaBinChe** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:03 am

If you have patience look for a used one on CL.

I do suggest new riders take the MSF but you can take your DMV test at the Capitola DMV on a scooter and pass it pretty easily. Do some practice on the weekend first. They are the easiest going DMV I have ever been to.

Yes I make that commute all the time on a scoot, rain or shine except when I need to carry something large or if I'm sick. I used to make that same commute on a Honda Metropolitan. So I'm at Cabrillo on Mondays and Wednesdays if you want to try out the Elite. But first at least get your permit.

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:18 am

kelly allow DaBinChe to help you all he can! the guy knows scooters top to bottom. the Elite 110 would be a great choice, and at $2600 OTD a great deal. even if it were a bit more

if i were you (i am not) i would take DaBin up on his offer of meeting you and showing you around his scooter. if you can. you're in good hands

btw you think his commute is long? he rode THIS to Alaska. and back, pretty sure. this is him. hope you don't mind me tooting your horn, dude

now is a good time for me to tell Dabin i think he is freakin' awesome for doing that

seriously

Modern Buddy

is this a fair price???

is this a fair price???

thanx for input...much appreciated

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