new handlebars on a rattler.

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:19 pm

So i want to put some motocross bars on my rattler and i was wondering if anyone has done this before. I assume it should be fairly simple switch out with the minor exception of the turn signal brackets. Does anyone have advice or tips on how to do this mod.

I am wanting to gain a little more knee clearance and a little narrower (I come from a BMX background) and they have 7/8 bars in any size and color you want for about 17 bucks.

Thanks

robert · Post by **robert** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:56 pm

not to hard to do just make sure not too wide your front brake line is only so long less you want top replace it for a longer one ,throttle cable, an rear brake as well .looks cool !! handles better to i also put moto-x brush gards on to. ill try to get pix soon .

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:12 pm

Like these?

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:38 pm

these are the bars I will probably get. the mini size from:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/ ... lebar.aspx

robert · Post by **robert** » Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:29 pm

i put Pro-taper A.T.V. bars and brush gards (power madd) just like the ones picthered.the set up is cool

denskies · Post by **denskies** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:12 am

I have some bigger ones on mine.

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:03 pm

I have some bigger ones on mine.

What size do you guys go with? Where did find those turnsignals those are pretty cool.

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:44 pm

You can get those signals off of ebay pretty cheap.

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:44 pm

do you think bars with these dimesions would be too big or a good fit?

width-720mm (28.3")
height-153mm (6")
rise-114mm (4.4")
clamp area width-210mm (8.26)
sweep-85mm (3.3)
diameter-7/8in

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:49 pm

I thought i was going to have clearance issues but after a couple weeks i got used it to.

If you want narrow you can always saw off the ends of the stock bars

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:01 pm

My main concern is the height im not sure if i want them that tall but i do want to gain some knee clearance? Hmmmmm

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:49 pm

How tall are you?

Give it a week before you spend the time and $ on new bars.
Unless (like me) it doesn't matter and you like wrenching on your stuff.

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:35 pm

How tall are you?

Im only 5'10 but i still feel they are a little low, i want to get the ergonomics closer to my girlfriends buddy. and i also like wrenching on things

robert · Post by **robert** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:32 pm

here are mine

MacJac · Post by **MacJac** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:37 pm

never looked into it - but would PowerMadd risers work to raise the height, instead of re-assembling everything?
http://www.powermadd.com/products/ATVriser.html

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:46 pm

That 4-bolt pattern is specific to snowmobiles, you would have to buy it to find out of it matched up to the rat. Those type of risers also push the bars closer to the rider since the angle isn't adjustable. It's looks like it might work since the entire middle is an open slot for the bolts

You would be better off with something like this

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:53 pm

Here is a 5" riser

http://www.315er.net/photo/data/504/100_0549.JPG

MacJac · Post by **MacJac** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:12 pm

Thanks Ray. I may give it a shot. Do you know of anyone who's tried this on their Rat, using risers? I'm surprised the subject never came up on a thread. At least not that I've seen.

Ray Knobs · Post by **Ray Knobs** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:32 pm

I was going to do it then i got used to the bars.
I never checked to see how much slack there was in the cable.

RuralRattler · Post by **RuralRattler** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:43 pm

I think im finally going to put some cheapy steel handlebars on my ratt this winter sometime im going to go with the atv bars, I figured i could get $20 ATV bars instead of a set of 30 dollar risers.

Amahoser · Post by **Amahoser** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:35 am

As I mentioned on the other Rattler forum, I wasn't too pleased with the bar position and seating position of my '07 Rattler. First thing I did was shave the seat flat so there is no more step between the rider area and the passenger area.I believe the '08 and later Rattlers already have their seats flat. That's when I noticed that sitting farther back, my elbows weren't bent at over a 90 degree angle. Riding position is much improved. I decided to look into handlebars and risers. Maybe I could push the bars forward a bit. Found what I was looking for.... albiet a bit pricey. Genmar makes 1" risers that also pull back 1 3/8". Using these risers mounted backwards, I was able to push the handlebars forward. Instead of going with MX style bars, I decided to go with cafe style drop bars. I love the look and the sporty seating position. I can now lean the bike with much more confidence. At the same time, I also installed a set of dual-star mirrors and Pro Grip Rally Grips 714. These grips are my favorite hand grips on any type of motorcycle. Damn comfy.

A couple of notes:
Any 7/8 handlebar will work.
Any 7/8" motorcycle type grip will work. Motorcycle grips are usually thinner for the throttle side (to accomodate the throttle tube).
The stock bar ends will not work since the factory handlebars are threaded. Stock bar ends are a joke anyways. Get some heavyweight bar ends to help dampend vibrations if you want bar ends.
The stock bars have holes drilled into them to position the two switch housings. You'll need to drill holes into your new handlebars.
The stock lower clamp is machined to fit the Speedo mount. I tried to fit the speedo mount on the upper part of the genmar riser.... bar is too loose. Either I grind a bit off the genmar clamp or I use the lower mount. Using the lower mount does not leave enough room to mount the speedo in its factory mount. I used just the upper bolt to mount the speedo using the speedo's lower bolt hole. I'll need to figure out something better.... either fab up a mount, relocate the speedo or something else.... I kinda like a clean handlebar area so maybe i'll relocate the speedo. Not sure yet.

brimstone · Post by **brimstone** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:15 pm

i like the seat...how did you do that, un-do the fabric and use an electric knife(like for turkey)?

Amahoser · Post by **Amahoser** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:44 pm

brimstone wrote:i like the seat...how did you do that, un-do the fabric and use an electric knife(like for turkey)?

Naw, I got my local upholstery guy to do it. Thats a new seat cover custom stiched. Was pretty easy for him. Charged me only $50.

Hoser

brimstone · Post by **brimstone** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:27 am

nice.

bykpimp · Post by **bykpimp** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:35 am

Big guys should go with the protaper kits on fleabay that include the bars, conversion clamps, grips, pad and grip glue for $99.00 in the KX high bend. No affliation, just sayin'

DO NOT DRILL HOLES IN THE BARS FOR THE SWITCH GEAR!!! Simply introduce the lil pegs to Mr. Dremel. Now you can adjust your switch gears in any position you fancy.

Amahoser · Post by **Amahoser** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:01 am

bykpimp wrote:DO NOT DRILL HOLES IN THE BARS FOR THE SWITCH GEAR!!! Simply introduce the lil pegs to Mr. Dremel. Now you can adjust your switch gears in any position you fancy.

I thought about doing that but considering that the rear brake lever is part of that assembly, I assumed that there might not be enough friction to hold the assembly in place. So, you have done this and friction hold is enough? If thats the case, i'll grind off the nubs so I can freely adjust the assembly.

bykpimp · Post by **bykpimp** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 pm

I've done this on more motorcycles then I could ever remember.

MotoSteve · Post by **MotoSteve** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:55 pm

bykpimp is right on. KX high bend protaper with kit from fleebay installed. Easy on, filed off the nubs and holds tight. Looks and feels great. My knees have breathing room now. Here's a pic.

bykpimp wrote:Big guys should go with the protaper kits on fleabay that include the bars, conversion clamps, grips, pad and grip glue for $99.00 in the KX high bend. No affliation, just sayin'

DO NOT DRILL HOLES IN THE BARS FOR THE SWITCH GEAR!!! Simply introduce the lil pegs to Mr. Dremel. Now you can adjust your switch gears in any position you fancy.

nissanman · Post by **nissanman** » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:37 am

Looks good. I have the stock bars, but have a nice new set of Power Madd handguards to install soon

Got the Rox SpeedFX billet set of mounts too, should set off the factory bars real nice! Oh, and went with the little mirrors that mount to the guards too, b-bye stockers.

Keys · Post by **Keys** » Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:59 pm

I just cut 2 1/2 inches off each end of mine. No more leg interference and I think it handles better.

Now for the signals...

--Keys

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