Genuine top case weight restriction

[chloefpuff]

Scooterworks has the Genuine top case on sale. I pulled up the pdf to look at the mounting instructions and noticed it has a WEIGHT RESTRICTION OF TEN POUNDS.

Whaaaaatttttt?

Should I ignore that? It seems utterly ridiculous. I do like their top case because I'm a pinkie. (even though I"ve read plenty of feedback that they're not so great)

[Lostmycage]

Find ten pounds and lift it. It's a lot more than most people think. Now imagine putting it at the highest and rear-most point on the scoot. It's almost enough to weigh down the back enough that the rear wheel is down while it's on the center stand.

Now find 10 pounds of random stuff (in other words, put the sack of potatoes down that you went looking for from the first statement). Most random stuff is bulkier than it is heavy. You'll also find that 10 pounds of normal everyday stuff tends to be too bulky for a topcase. Unless you only keep dense things around, you might find yourself unable to fit 10 pounds of random stuff in a Genuine topcase.

If you're carrying 10 pounds of stuff all the time, get a compression sack and a bungee net and secure it to the back part of the seat (over the wheel instead of behind it). Or you could consider that you're taking too much with you.

If you want color matched for the pink, go with the Genuine case. If you have any other priorities for a topcase (convenience, durability, function) get a Shad, Givi, Coocase or Besteem (the JC Whittney one). Sorry Genuine, you make great scooters, but no one's surprised to hear that about your topcases. The priorities are right though... I'd rather have a bulletproof scooter with a crap topcase than a crap scooter with a bulletproof trunk.

[Lagerhead]

I do like their top case because I'm a pinkie. (even though I"ve read plenty of feedback that they're not so great)

http://www.kymcoaccessories.com/s29main.htm



$165.00 seems just a little high but by the time I bought a plain Shad case ($100), the unpainted color plate ($25), 1 can of plastic primer and 1 can of pink spray paint($15) I should have just spent the coin.

I've had my Shad SH-29 over 3 years now and would reccommend it to anyone.

[Lostmycage]

Problem solved! The Shad 29 is a tough case that works great with the Buddy (and Blur). I never knew they made a pink color plate.

If you're unsure about the cost - Yes, it's worth the price difference. You don't have to buy it all together, though. You can get the case (black goes well with pink) then the color plate later on.

[chloefpuff]

I do like their top case because I'm a pinkie. (even though I"ve read plenty of feedback that they're not so great)

http://www.kymcoaccessories.com/s29main.htm



$165.00 seems just a little high but by the time I bought a plain Shad case ($100), the unpainted color plate ($25), 1 can of plastic primer and 1 can of pink spray paint($15) I should have just spent the coin.

I've had my Shad SH-29 over 3 years now and would reccommend it to anyone.

Problem solved!!!! I should've asked for this for Christmas, but I was thinking "add warmth" at the time.

[bluebuddygirl]

Remember that your rear rack has a weight limit too, which is rated at only 11 lbs. I have put much more than that on it, but only once in a while.

[pugbuddy]

I've had my Shad SH-29 over 3 years now and would reccommend it to anyone.

It locks too, right? I have an orange Buddy but I could go with a royal blue case (I don't want Black).

[jijifer]

I want to second that you'd be surprised how dense 10lbs has to be to fit within the carrier. Also consider, riding with it, let alone full, you'll be wearing out your back tire QUICK (well, in about 3.5-4k miles which happens every 3-4months for me).

Another consideration is that SHAD and GIVI are removable and more and more I find i need to bungee something that doesn't fit within the trunk. Still , the GIVI attaches to the a plate and that plate takes a lot of good bungee grasping places.

[Lagerhead]

I've had my Shad SH-29 over 3 years now and would reccommend it to anyone.

It locks too, right? I have an orange Buddy but I could go with a royal blue case (I don't want Black).

Yep it locks closed and it locks to the mounting plate which bolts to the buddy rack.
When it's unlocked you push one latch to open it or the other latch to pop it off and take with you.

[Skootz Kabootz]

I think the top case weight restriction is more a result of the Genuine rear rack strength than the strength of the top case. I have had no problems with my case/rack and I load it up to 10lbs or just over somewhat regularly - though not for long distances.

[chloefpuff]

Now my total and despicable ignorance has been revealed to all. sigh.

Oh well, you all taught me something so it was worth it......

[mattgordon]

I believe it's more like what effect that ten pounds has on the handling of the bike, as it reduce the contact of your FRONT tire by an amount...which is more than ten pounds.

It's not a matter of how much weight the actual topcase holds....it's the effect that weight, extended out past the center-point of the rear wheel has on the bikes handling.

Lawyers, not engineers made that limit, on behalf of the manufacturer. (read: Liability)

[jasondavis48108]

I believe it's more like what effect that ten pounds has on the handling of the bike, as it reduce the contact of your FRONT tire by an amount...which is more than ten pounds.

It's not a matter of how much weight the actual topcase holds....it's the effect that weight, extended out past the center-point of the rear wheel has on the bikes handling.

Lawyers, not engineers made that limit, on behalf of the manufacturer. (read: Liability)

If this is the case then couldn't you correct for this somewhat by loading up the front rack with an equal amount of crap. I know that I have the Genuine topcase for now (replacing it very soon with a larger givi topcase) and I also have the front rack. I know I have loaded up my little 50 with at least 15 lb of crap in the topcase, an 11 year old boy on the back, and probably 8-10lb of stuff on the front rack with no real problems, not that I'd want to do that regularly since i"m somewhat large myself at 6'1" and 200lb but I know it's worked for me in the past without being scary.

[mattgordon]

I believe it's more like what effect that ten pounds has on the handling of the bike, as it reduce the contact of your FRONT tire by an amount...which is more than ten pounds.

It's not a matter of how much weight the actual topcase holds....it's the effect that weight, extended out past the center-point of the rear wheel has on the bikes handling.

Lawyers, not engineers made that limit, on behalf of the manufacturer. (read: Liability)

If this is the case then couldn't you correct for this somewhat by loading up the front rack with an equal amount of crap. I know that I have the Genuine topcase for now (replacing it very soon with a larger givi topcase) and I also have the front rack. I know I have loaded up my little 50 with at least 15 lb of crap in the topcase, an 11 year old boy on the back, and probably 8-10lb of stuff on the front rack with no real problems, not that I'd want to do that regularly since i"m somewhat large myself at 6'1" and 200lb but I know it's worked for me in the past without being scary.

In my personal opinion, the weight on the front rack would counteract the weight on the rear, and the combined weight of both loads would simply be a part of the scooter's recommended GVWR.

Thats just my opinion, and not to be construed as advice regarding how to load or ride your scooter.

Keep in mind, the manufacturer has to cover their own legal interests, and cannot specify or guarantee that the individual overloading his rear topcase, will also add a similar countereffective amount of weight to the front of the scooter.

Again, the limitation is likely due more to potential handling problems caused by the weight hanging way out over the rear tire, than the actual topcase's ability to hold it.

Lawyers.

YMMV.

[Skootz Kabootz]

Once again I recommend reading Proficient Motorcycling (I'm always recommending this book...). Specifically the chapter on how to correctly load a motorcycle/scooter.

[mattgordon]

Once again I recommend reading Proficient Motorcycling (I'm always recommending this book...). Specifically the chapter on how to correctly load a motorcycle/scooter.

Sage advice