Muahaha!

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:12 pm

toycoma98 wrote:BUT would it lower compression? It looks deeper than the stock when i compared them in person.

For the 161 cylinder kit there are 2 sets of gaskets. One set for the 125 head and one set for the 150 head. The gaskets for the 150 are thinner to raise compression so I'm assuming the 150 head is deeper. I should have taken the time to see how many cc's each head holds but I was too antsy

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:35 am

Took the Buddy out for a ride today, Haven't started tuning yet (waiting on filter) Bumped up my jetting for a starting point. Gained 8mph on the top end running rich, running a tad lean in the mid range I believe

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 4:41 pm

NOOOOO! Filter gets here today but the 30 mph winds and rain don't leave till NEXT WEDNESDAY!

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:21 pm

ScooterTrash wrote:NOOOOO! Filter gets here today but the 30 mph winds and rain don't leave till NEXT WEDNESDAY!

I'd say ride in the rain, but 30mph wind SUCKS. Especially when testing a new engine.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:32 pm

Kaos wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote:NOOOOO! Filter gets here today but the 30 mph winds and rain don't leave till NEXT WEDNESDAY!
I'd say ride in the rain, but 30mph wind SUCKS. Especially when testing a new engine.

Not this rain

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:52 am

Moar pictures

Step 1 - Ruin every chance of returning to stock

Step 2 - Create a lowes brand adapter (1.5in sink drop down)

Step 3 - Gather materials

Step 4 - assemble new intake

Step 5 - Install for moar powa

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 1:56 am

Yep, thats exactly how I did it

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:06 am

Kaos wrote:Yep, thats exactly how I did it

I read your mind since you didn't send pics

P.S. this thing sounds mean!

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:30 am

ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:Yep, thats exactly how I did it
I read your mind since you didn't send pics

P.S. this thing sounds mean!

Yeah, guess I can take "Send intake photos to Scootertrash" off my todo list.

Yeah, its like a swirling vortex of Voodoo

I turned my engine over by hand a bit with the 1.4mm of clearance yesterday and its got so much compression I can barely get it past the compression cycle with the kickstarter. I think I'm going back to the 125 gaskets.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:40 am

Kaos wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:Yep, thats exactly how I did it
I read your mind since you didn't send pics

P.S. this thing sounds mean!
Yeah, guess I can take "Send intake photos to Scootertrash" off my todo list.

Yeah, its like a swirling vortex of Voodoo
I turned my engine over by hand a bit with the 1.4mm of clearance yesterday and its got so much compression I can barely get it past the compression cycle with the kickstarter. I think I'm going back to the 125 gaskets.

Pull the spark plug silly. The 125's would definitely be safer

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:41 am

ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote: I read your mind since you didn't send pics

P.S. this thing sounds mean!
Yeah, guess I can take "Send intake photos to Scootertrash" off my todo list.

Yeah, its like a swirling vortex of Voodoo
I turned my engine over by hand a bit with the 1.4mm of clearance yesterday and its got so much compression I can barely get it past the compression cycle with the kickstarter. I think I'm going back to the 125 gaskets.
Pull the spark plug silly. The 125's would definitely be safer

Man, that would have been a good idea wouldn't it?

I'm just a sucker for compression

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sat May 01, 2010 9:49 pm

Oil catch can, no more oil in the intake

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Sat May 01, 2010 10:47 pm

ScooterTrash wrote:Oil catch can, no more oil in the intake

See, thats one I really need to do, I leak oil from the end of my intake tube when I take it out on the freeway.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun May 02, 2010 12:46 am

Kaos wrote:See, thats one I really need to do, I leak oil from the end of my intake tube when I take it out on the freeway.

Crap gets into the carb too

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Sun May 02, 2010 1:25 am

ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:See, thats one I really need to do, I leak oil from the end of my intake tube when I take it out on the freeway.
Crap gets into the carb too

Yeah, I know. I can smell it burning it a bit after a hard run. Not a good thing.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun May 02, 2010 1:47 am

Kaos wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:See, thats one I really need to do, I leak oil from the end of my intake tube when I take it out on the freeway.
Crap gets into the carb too
Yeah, I know. I can smell it burning it a bit after a hard run. Not a good thing.

We'll find out soon how much oil blows through

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Sun May 02, 2010 1:48 am

ScooterTrash wrote:
Kaos wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote: Crap gets into the carb too
Yeah, I know. I can smell it burning it a bit after a hard run. Not a good thing.
We'll find out soon how much oil blows through

Yeah, I'll be interested in seeing what you find. I'm thinking this will likely happen on my bike soon as well.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun May 02, 2010 1:54 am

Wish the damn weather would clear up, still haven't even tuned it

Kaos · Post by **Kaos** » Sun May 02, 2010 2:19 am

ScooterTrash wrote:Wish the damn weather would clear up, still haven't even tuned it

I know the feeling, I got really lucky that it stayed dry long enough for me to build my motor. Its drizzling now :/

toycoma98 · Post by **toycoma98** » Sun May 02, 2010 3:48 am

This is how mine is right now.

Check out my rear shock.

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Sun May 02, 2010 7:27 pm

scootertrash, what AFR are you using? I was thinking about going with the AEM AFR gauge.

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun May 02, 2010 9:08 pm

gearhead wrote:scootertrash, what AFR are you using? I was thinking about going with the AEM AFR gauge.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lm2.php

Whatever you use, make sure it's wideband

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Sun May 02, 2010 11:56 pm

WOOHOO! first time out I was happy with my numbers. I'm running about 12.8 at idle, 12.9 mid and 13.1 at wot

Stock idle jet, one needle shim and a 120 main

charlybrwn134 · Post by **charlybrwn134** » Mon May 03, 2010 12:36 am

ScooterTrash wrote:Ya'll don't know the meaning of VooDoo

More pics to come tuesday

looks like an exhuast flow bypass..

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Mon May 03, 2010 2:41 am

so with your kit, you are just going to put it on when you tune and not have the gauge in the front at all times?

I was thinking about getting this one.. what do you think?

and here is the link on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-GAUG ... ccessories

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:06 am

The Eugo is the one I was going to buy but I have access to the portable one whenever I want for free

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I didn't want to run it full time due to the pipe restriction but It can be done right. If you use an extended O2 bung it would work well. Make sure you use a stainless bung for the prima

I would have used the extended bung but I didn't plan on running it full time so... I'll just weld another on top if I decide to go full time

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:08 am

are the readings going to be accurate with the extended o2 bung?

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:25 am

gearhead wrote:are the readings going to be accurate with the extended o2 bung?

The very tip is where the reading is taken. The extended bungs are meant for smaller pipes

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:48 am

hmmm i looked on ebay and couldn't find any extended o2 bung. I did find an universal adapter that seemed like it was extended. Also, are most of the wideband o2 sensors M18 x 1.5 thread?

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Mon May 03, 2010 4:16 am

gearhead wrote:hmmm i looked on ebay and couldn't find any extended o2 bung. I did find an universal adapter that seemed like it was extended. Also, are most of the wideband o2 sensors M18 x 1.5 thread?

http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/produc ... cts_id/417

toycoma98 · Post by **toycoma98** » Mon May 03, 2010 5:57 am

gearhead wrote:so with your kit, you are just going to put it on when you tune and not have the gauge in the front at all times?

I was thinking about getting this one.. what do you think?

and here is the link on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-GAUG ... ccessories

I have one on my Turbo truck. That is a gauge type so i must be used full time. Its easy to install but where are you gonna put the gauge? lol

Easy 12v power, and ground wiring.

toycoma98 · Post by **toycoma98** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:02 am

ScooterTrash wrote:WOOHOO! first time out I was happy with my numbers. I'm running about 12.8 at idle, 12.9 mid and 13.1 at wot

Stock idle jet, one needle shim and a 120 main

12.8 at idle? Thats pretty rich on idle.

should it be 14.7 at idle?

13.1 at wot? Thats a little lean at wot i think.

whats the ideal AFR in wot for these engines?

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Mon May 03, 2010 6:38 am

toycoma98 wrote:I have one on my Turbo truck. That is a gauge type so i must be used full time. Its easy to install but where are you gonna put the gauge? lol

Easy 12v power, and ground wiring.

I'll find a way to mount it up on my ruckus lol

gearhead · Post by **gearhead** » Mon May 03, 2010 9:48 am

ScooterTrash wrote:
gearhead wrote:hmmm i looked on ebay and couldn't find any extended o2 bung. I did find an universal adapter that seemed like it was extended. Also, are most of the wideband o2 sensors M18 x 1.5 thread?
http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/produc ... cts_id/417

thanks for the link scootertrash. I will order one

ScooterTrash · Post by **ScooterTrash** » Mon May 03, 2010 1:44 pm

toycoma98 wrote:
ScooterTrash wrote:WOOHOO! first time out I was happy with my numbers. I'm running about 12.8 at idle, 12.9 mid and 13.1 at wot

Stock idle jet, one needle shim and a 120 main
12.8 at idle? Thats pretty rich on idle.

should it be 14.7 at idle?

13.1 at wot? Thats a little lean at wot i think.

whats the ideal AFR in wot for these engines?

Those were just the numbers I pulled first shot. I adjusted the idle leaner but it was starting to stumble so I stayed around 13.5.

Pretty much everything I've read says 13.1 is ideal for power and well within the safe zone. Unfortunately there aren't many articles on a/f ratio's on scooters. All I know is it feels good and there aren't any dead spots

Modern Buddy

Muahaha!

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