Thats kinda the feedback I've gotten as well, some of them are great quality others are apparently junk.ericalm wrote:BTW, I know a few people who don't like the K58s. Jess from MV had them on his first leg of the Cannonball and I think he ditched them for the K61s, which he likes. I'm still a big fan of the K61 too.rondothemidget wrote:I have over 600 miles on my Vee Rubber tires now (front and back) and I am quite happy. Previous setup was the Heidenau K58 on the front and K61 on the back. As stated by Kaos, the Vee tires do stick like glue and are extremely smooth at low and high speeds. The new Vee tires made me realize how horrible the K58s were - rough and bumpy at slow speed figure-8-type tight turns and slightly unresponsive at high speeds. If I get at least 4,000 miles out of them, I'll be a long-term customer.Kaos wrote: Apparently the V's that come stock on bikes and the aftermarket V's are night and day from what I've been told. Mine stick like glue and are lasting well.![]()
Interesting to hear about the Vees. I posted to Twitter asking for any feedback and got a very mixed bag of responses but it sounds as if the quality varies quite a bit depending on which tire you use.
Has anyone tried Vee Rubber tires yet?
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ISO 9000. Nothing to sneeze at. It's a global economy.DennisD wrote:Don't know, but they're made in Thailand. Here's the website: http://www.veerubber.co.th/web/home.html
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We went with Shinko's on the ScabbyO and had better luck with them. The Pirelli's were nice, but ran out too soon.
I used to be an MTS for Firestone and the way it works is, high UTQG rating means hard rubber compound and less traction. Low is soft rubber compound better traction. Just be advised, traction ratings are designated by the tire manufacturer NOT the DOT!!!
What that means is, if a tire has a UTQG rating of like 700 (really high) and some astronomical AAA traction rating, the tire maker is full of crap.
I used to be an MTS for Firestone and the way it works is, high UTQG rating means hard rubber compound and less traction. Low is soft rubber compound better traction. Just be advised, traction ratings are designated by the tire manufacturer NOT the DOT!!!
What that means is, if a tire has a UTQG rating of like 700 (really high) and some astronomical AAA traction rating, the tire maker is full of crap.
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I'm on my second VRM-134 rear, still on the first front. I'll be sticking with these unless they stop making it available, as far as I can tell. 
Don't know why some of you are getting 6k out of a tire and I'm only getting about 4k, though.
My only guess is that I'm in the mountains. All those uphills with me sitting pretty much directly over top of the tire, maybe.

Don't know why some of you are getting 6k out of a tire and I'm only getting about 4k, though.

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I could not give a fair opinion on the K61 because I only had one on the back. If I had them on the front and back, I'm guessing it would be similar, in terms of handling and wear life, to the Vee rubber. However the K61 is nearly twice as much money and doesn't have as high of a top speed rating.ericalm wrote:BTW, I know a few people who don't like the K58s. Jess from MV had them on his first leg of the Cannonball and I think he ditched them for the K61s, which he likes. I'm still a big fan of the K61 too.rondothemidget wrote:I have over 600 miles on my Vee Rubber tires now (front and back) and I am quite happy. Previous setup was the Heidenau K58 on the front and K61 on the back. As stated by Kaos, the Vee tires do stick like glue and are extremely smooth at low and high speeds. The new Vee tires made me realize how horrible the K58s were - rough and bumpy at slow speed figure-8-type tight turns and slightly unresponsive at high speeds. If I get at least 4,000 miles out of them, I'll be a long-term customer.Kaos wrote: Apparently the V's that come stock on bikes and the aftermarket V's are night and day from what I've been told. Mine stick like glue and are lasting well.![]()
Interesting to hear about the Vees. I posted to Twitter asking for any feedback and got a very mixed bag of responses but it sounds as if the quality varies quite a bit depending on which tire you use.
I ran the K61 down to where you couldn't see the center groove. It was smooth, like my elbow. I would not recommend doing that because it started to slide and fishtail during 25 mph turns. I know. It was dumb.
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I've got 3,000 miles on my Vee Rubber tires and I am almost out of center tread. As compared to others, why do I get so few miles out of my rear tires?Kaos wrote:I've got just shy of 6k miles on mine now, and they've still got a fair bit of tread left. I'm calling that good tire liferondothemidget wrote:I have over 600 miles on my Vee Rubber tires now (front and back) and I am quite happy. Previous setup was the Heidenau K58 on the front and K61 on the back. As stated by Kaos, the Vee tires do stick like glue and are extremely smooth at low and high speeds. The new Vee tires made me realize how horrible the K58s were - rough and bumpy at slow speed figure-8-type tight turns and slightly unresponsive at high speeds. If I get at least 4,000 miles out of them, I'll be a long-term customer.Kaos wrote: Apparently the V's that come stock on bikes and the aftermarket V's are night and day from what I've been told. Mine stick like glue and are lasting well.
I weigh less than 150, only carry my lunch in my top case and ride normally on the seat (not to the back). I do get a "chicken strip" but over 90% of my driving is one long straight road. On the few turns I have, I lean enough to scrape the kickstand from time to time. On slight curves, I even took to tilting the scooter down and balancing my weight on the high side to attempt to get more wear on the outside of the tire.
Would driving speed make a difference? Most of my commute is over 50 mph with a few mile stretch over 60.
Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.
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Hmm, there's a lot of things that can cause that. I don't think speed has much to do with it as a lot of my riding is over 60 and I get much more than that.rondothemidget wrote:I've got 3,000 miles on my Vee Rubber tires and I am almost out of center tread. As compared to others, why do I get so few miles out of my rear tires?Kaos wrote:I've got just shy of 6k miles on mine now, and they've still got a fair bit of tread left. I'm calling that good tire liferondothemidget wrote: I have over 600 miles on my Vee Rubber tires now (front and back) and I am quite happy. Previous setup was the Heidenau K58 on the front and K61 on the back. As stated by Kaos, the Vee tires do stick like glue and are extremely smooth at low and high speeds. The new Vee tires made me realize how horrible the K58s were - rough and bumpy at slow speed figure-8-type tight turns and slightly unresponsive at high speeds. If I get at least 4,000 miles out of them, I'll be a long-term customer.
I weigh less than 150, only carry my lunch in my top case and ride normally on the seat (not to the back). I do get a "chicken strip" but over 90% of my driving is one long straight road. On the few turns I have, I lean enough to scrape the kickstand from time to time. On slight curves, I even took to tilting the scooter down and balancing my weight on the high side to attempt to get more wear on the outside of the tire.
Would driving speed make a difference? Most of my commute is over 50 mph with a few mile stretch over 60.
Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.
Do you have them over/under inflated?
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I just checked with two different gauges - 18. I remember the Honda dealership that mounted the tire had it at 20 when it was new. Is that too low? What is the optimal tire pressure for this tire? Are scooter tires like car tires where under-inflating would make the outside wear abnormally? Should I over-inflate the next one a little?Kaos wrote:Hmm, there's a lot of things that can cause that. I don't think speed has much to do with it as a lot of my riding is over 60 and I get much more than that.rondothemidget wrote:I've got 3,000 miles on my Vee Rubber tires and I am almost out of center tread. As compared to others, why do I get so few miles out of my rear tires?Kaos wrote: I've got just shy of 6k miles on mine now, and they've still got a fair bit of tread left. I'm calling that good tire life
I weigh less than 150, only carry my lunch in my top case and ride normally on the seat (not to the back). I do get a "chicken strip" but over 90% of my driving is one long straight road. On the few turns I have, I lean enough to scrape the kickstand from time to time. On slight curves, I even took to tilting the scooter down and balancing my weight on the high side to attempt to get more wear on the outside of the tire.
Would driving speed make a difference? Most of my commute is over 50 mph with a few mile stretch over 60.
Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.
Do you have them over/under inflated?
I have monitored the air pressure but I still can't figure out why I've had low mileage from 3 different tire models (Heidenau K58, K61 & the Vee). Maybe there's more gravity in Southern California?
Would rapidly accelerating from a stop cause it to wear faster than normal? At times, I do act like I'm getting a hole shot when the light turns green. I might stop & start 10-20 times in my daily commute.
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They're only at 18lbs? Yeah, thats WAY too low. 30-35 should be about right if I'm remembering. You can look at the tire, or the label in the pet carrier. But I'm 100% sure 18 is just far too low. You're also likely hurting your speed and handling.rondothemidget wrote:I just checked with two different gauges - 18. I remember the Honda dealership that mounted the tire had it at 20 when it was new. Is that too low? What is the optimal tire pressure for this tire? Are scooter tires like car tires where under-inflating would make the outside wear abnormally? Should I over-inflate the next one a little?Kaos wrote:Hmm, there's a lot of things that can cause that. I don't think speed has much to do with it as a lot of my riding is over 60 and I get much more than that.rondothemidget wrote: I've got 3,000 miles on my Vee Rubber tires and I am almost out of center tread. As compared to others, why do I get so few miles out of my rear tires?
I weigh less than 150, only carry my lunch in my top case and ride normally on the seat (not to the back). I do get a "chicken strip" but over 90% of my driving is one long straight road. On the few turns I have, I lean enough to scrape the kickstand from time to time. On slight curves, I even took to tilting the scooter down and balancing my weight on the high side to attempt to get more wear on the outside of the tire.
Would driving speed make a difference? Most of my commute is over 50 mph with a few mile stretch over 60.
Any explanations would be greatly appreciated.
Do you have them over/under inflated?
I have monitored the air pressure but I still can't figure out why I've had low mileage from 3 different tire models (Heidenau K58, K61 & the Vee). Maybe there's more gravity in Southern California?
Would rapidly accelerating from a stop cause it to wear faster than normal? At times, I do act like I'm getting a hole shot when the light turns green. I might stop & start 10-20 times in my daily commute.
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I should have posted this about 2,000 miles ago...Cheshire wrote:18??Yeah, way too low...a touch over half what they should be. The sticker on the scooter says 30 psi front and rear.
I have been pleased with the performance of these tires. I will see how many more miles I can get on my new Vee Rubber rear tire, with the proper inflation this time.
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That right there is your answer.rondothemidget wrote: but over 90% of my driving is one long straight road.
The only people I know who don't wear out the center of their tires LONG before the side treads wear out are people that live near the Appalachians or in Colorado or something.
I rode my Enfield out to the Dragon one time, several times I overheard people commenting "DANG! lookit how FLAT them tires are worn!!"
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