The reason I purchased a Rattler over a Buddy

brianwheelies · Post by **brianwheelies** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:14 am

This is just a bit of feedback for Genuine Scooter Co.

I wear size 11 shoes and I was interested in the Tangerine leftover Buddy 125 when I was shopping for a Genuine scoot. When I sat on the Buddy, there just wasn't much room for my feet.

Sitting on the Rattler 110 that was also leftover, it had much more room for my feet(which I don't consider to be that big).

I still would like to get a 170i but not without room for my piglets. Twisting my feet at angles to fit really isn't an option. Feet straight so my knees stay relaxed.

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:45 am

I think you'll find that when actually riding your feet are not flat on the floor are more up against the front of the scooter in a much more dynamic position. I have size 11.5 feet and also have the passenger foot rests installed on my Buddy. I have no issue at all and can even move my feet around and change positions. Infact I was very impressed with how comfortable my Buddy was on a ride from LA to San Francisco and back. (I guess that says a lot for the seat too

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Raiderfn311 · Post by **Raiderfn311** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:03 pm

I have to concur with Skootz on this. You'll get used to the "feet" situation.

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:49 pm

I have smaller feet (size 8.5) so the Buddy leaves plenty of room. The Zuma has a little less room but if I flay the toes just a little it's still comfortable.

brianwheelies · Post by **brianwheelies** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:02 am

When I am in the market again I will re-evaluate. I also like the idea of the Blur 220.

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:38 am

There's no "one scooter fits all" solution, but I've been surprised by the range of sizes and body types among happy Buddy riders. Most people adapt to what they ride. I found the Buddy small and a bit uncomfortable when I first rode one, but my body (and size 12 boots) adjusted to it. I don't frequently ride a Buddy now, but when I get one, it all comes back. I've been able to spend a lot more time riding one than I would have thought earlier.

The Buddy was originally designed for the Asian market—and in particular, targeted towards young riders. No secret that they're, on average, smaller than most of us in the US and have smaller feet.

I have a long torso, so find the Rattler very uncomfortable, like I'm being pushed forward over the headset. Like I said, they're going to fit us all a bit differently.

Skootz Kabootz wrote:a ride from LA to San Francisco and back

Chilly · Post by **Chilly** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:20 pm

When I first got my Buddy my feet felt akward, after a few rides my feet gravitated towards a "toes out the side" stance with my feet angled. Perfectely comfortable. Have a bad back and bum leg but am comfortable on hour rides. 5'9" size 10 1/2.

Wheelz · Post by **Wheelz** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:51 pm

I knew Eric was gonna say something.....

Syd · Post by **Syd** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:55 pm

I agree with brianwheelies. I know (now) that I would have become comfortable with the footpan on the Buddy, but when I was looking it was a factor in my choosing the HD200.

I don't think the Buddy should be restyled to incorporate a flatter floor though. The curve of the lower portion of the Buddy is one of the things that distinguishes it from the crowd.

Howardr · Post by **Howardr** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:34 pm

Size 12 dogs here and I have had no problems with riding the Buddy, almost 3 years and 23,000 miles now.

Howard

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:39 am

my size 13 boots fit well on a buddy

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:16 am

ok just to be fair my boots do just fit. but well enough, sure. i find i ride with my feet positioned differently at times, anyway. and "regular" shoes fit just fine

Lotrat · Post by **Lotrat** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:33 pm

I bought a Rattler for the looks. I don't care for the... bubbliness? of the buddy.

Rattler, Roughhouse, and the PGO X-Hot are more my style. I guess they are more of a dual sport scooter. Now that I think of it, all of my vehicles are dual sport types. I guess that explains it. If I were in the market today for a new 2012 scooter, I would probably pass on the Genuine brand. I'd never buy a 50cc Roughhouse. Maybe a Psycho, but it's probably slower than my 110cc 2 stroke off the line and the availability issue is a big negative.

brianwheelies · Post by **brianwheelies** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Lotrat wrote:I bought a Rattler for the looks. I don't care for the... bubbliness? of the buddy.

Rattler, Roughhouse, and the PGO X-Hot are more my style. I guess they are more of a dual sport scooter. Now that I think of it, all of my vehicles are dual sport types. I guess that explains it. If I were in the market today for a new 2012 scooter, I would probably pass on the Genuine brand. I'd never buy a 50cc Roughhouse. Maybe a Psycho, but it's probably slower than my 110cc 2 stroke off the line and the availability issue is a big negative.

I love the Rattler styling too. I kind of want a 110 now. I have seen some on showroom floors still which I think is crazy as well as cool that there is still a chance to get a new one at a discounted price.

I am looking at the Honda PCX and Piaggio Typhoon 125 right now.

But back to the Buddy, I remember sitting on it and not having both feet straight and flat. One of my knees bothers me when my feet are not straight and it's being twisted it aches after a little while of riding.

Lotrat · Post by **Lotrat** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:22 pm

brianwheelies wrote:I love the Rattler styling too. I kind of want a 110 now. I have seen some on showroom floors still which I think is crazy as well as cool that there is still a chance to get a new one at a discounted price.

I am looking at the Honda PCX and Piaggio Typhoon 125 right now.

But back to the Buddy, I remember sitting on it and not having both feet straight and flat. One of my knees bothers me when my feet are not straight and it's being twisted it aches after a little while of riding.

Yeah, the Typhoon would probably be my pick based on price. The Zuma 125 is $700 higher MSRP. The PCX is too Asian looking for me. Still, happy to have the Rattler.