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My Very First Scooter - Pyscho Buddy 125

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Just got my first scooter - #174 of 174 of the Psycho edition!! I am brand spankin' new to this, so learning how to drive the bike has been a serious blast and a bit intimidating at the same time. I just completed my basic riders training and will have my endorsement by week-end. However, i'm still a bit timid to take it in traffic. I'm not quite ready for 40+ with other cars....any feed back from more experienced scooter riders? How did you get over the nOOB hump? When did you know you were comfortable enough to take it in traffic?

Also...i drove the Buddy 125 in my training course and its almost exactly the same compared to my Psycho except i notice the throttle isn't as responsive. My wrist had to sit a bit lower to just get my bike to move - i only have about 30 miles on my scooter now, so i am thinking it just still needs to be broke in...that or ill just have to get use to this throttle. Any tips on a proper break in? i have read the manual and many break in suggestions online - i'm just looking for others personal experience and advice.

So glad this forum is out here - this is FUN!!

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Wow! What a great number to get. Hope the last of the series winds up being the first of a series for you!
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Nice! I love the look of em!

They do open A LOT in the first 1500 miles and as the weather warms. I notice a huge difference in mine compared to 800 miles ago.
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Well I am a new(er) rider with just 18 months and around 10,000m under the riding belt. I would be happy to share my own personal experiences with you.

First off I have not taken MSF, but recently got my M1. I knew how to ride before I got my M1 as I was a permit rider up until then. I am letting you know this because many make the mistake of "well i passed MSF now I know how to ride" and go off and get hurt or killed thinking because they have an MC endorsement they can ride well. Well, that's not true at all. So it's good you are being prudent.

Playing in traffic is not a light matter, so don't be in a hurry. I will tell you how I did it. I practiced in parking lots and then on quiet residential streets. I could turn, stop, go, paddle walk, creep along slowly in a very basic way. First I rode on the street a little at night just to see what it was like. Very local, very brief. Then when I would go practice (around 1 and a 1/2 miles from my home) one day I just decided instead of taking the side streets I was confident enough to take a busy avenue. All in a straight line, just one turn. That's what I did, and I began to explore familiar streets with a bit of traffic. Then I ventured out more. Funny how in those first few hundred miles I was intimidated my this one intersection near my house. i thought 'i will NEVER ride through THAT!"

Now i do it everyday :)

IMO no one can tell YOU when is the right time for you to "try it," as no one can ride your bike for you. But you won't be completely comfortable doing it. So you sort of have to go ahead and do it when you feel or know you are ready. You'll know when with more practice. At around 300 miles I took my first 18 mile ride in traffic. I had to as a i was riding a new scoot home from the dealership. It went fine but I had to take a rest halfway through. And that was a GOOD thing.

Never ride if not comfortable or uncertain. Just pull over, take a break.

You'll get out there, no hurry, easy does it. If anything like me it will take at least a few thousand miles of riding (took me around 4,000) to become fully comfortable riding in traffic. And completely comfortable riding a bike. It may be different for all so far as time it takes, but that's not important. Whats important is you ride safe and within your own ability. Being comfortable out there on two wheels will take as long as it takes.

Practice, practice, practice. All in due time. I went from not wanting to enter an intersection I drove through in cars for 20 years, to riding through it daily. And anywhere else I please. Traffic never really crosses my mind until I get in it. And I look forward to it because it's my favorite kind of riding. It's fun, a bit dangerous, exciting, all that stuff.

But it won't be for awhile. I would tell people it's "interesting" or "intense" or "different" or "fun sometimes but not like a rollercoaster." But now its as I said b4 "fun, a bit dangerous, exciting".

So that is a big leap. It's just experience and the things which go with. Muscle memory, skills gained, attitude. Just don't be in a hurry.

What does riding become? Well, here is a thread I posted the FIRST day I rode in traffic, one from my first long ride in traffic, and one I posted last week about riding in general, and through intersections. Pretty different from then to now.

Very first ride in traffic
viewtopic.php?p=206207&highlight=#206207

First 20 mile ride in traffic
viewtopic.php?p=209101&highlight=#209101

Thread from last week
topic21554.html

That has been my experience. Give it time. I just hope some of this helps you gain some perspective and keeps you looking forward. And I hope you too will one day know the wonderment of being "out there and in it," so to speak.

Oh, and you will have to get through some "wait, i don't want to do this, this is CRAZY" moments. You'll know if riding is for you or not. And listen to that final vote of yes or no. Never force it. You should want to ride, not feel as if you need to prove something to yourself or "overcome" fear or w/e. Just....let it happen :)
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Very Well said, thank you!!!!!!
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Can't say it better than JHScoot, just start with quiet streets until you feel comfortable with curves, turns, braking, all of it, then move to slighly busier streets and so on.

Main thing I want to say is that being comfortable about riding WILL come. I distinctly remember after a few days with our first 50 cc scoot assuring my husband that I was fine riding up to about 25 mph indicated but that I didn't think I would ever need or want to go any faster! :lol: :lol: Laughing only because I go 55-60 indicated all the time now on 4-lane highways, and WOT for short stretches when needed.

Congrats on the Psycho! Sweet bike! HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE!
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JHScoot wrote:Playing in traffic is not a light matter, so don't be in a hurry. I will tell you how I did it. I practiced in parking lots and then on quiet residential streets. I could turn, stop, go, paddle walk, creep along slowly in a very basic way. First I rode on the street a little at night just to see what it was like. Very local, very brief. Then when I would go practice (around 1 and a 1/2 miles from my home) one day I just decided instead of taking the side streets I was confident enough to take a busy avenue. All in a straight line, just one turn. That's what I did, and I began to explore familiar streets with a bit of traffic. Then I ventured out more.
What he said. Except that I delayed riding after dark altogether until a bit later.
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JH nailed it! I'm a new rider (6 months, ~750 miles) and followed much the same path.

Just adding a little bit of personal experience, I found that early Saturday or (especially) Sunday rides were great for practicing in very light traffic and not feeling overwhelmed by other cars on the street. I scooted around the low-traffic neighborhood streets after work each night (before dark) for about 2 weeks and a couple of early weekend mornings before riding in real traffic to work. I also rode a couple of different routes to work on those early weekend mornings to see what the road was like from the scoot perspective, checking out pot-holes, bumps, patches, etc. I didn't actually start riding in "everyday" traffic until I felt confident about my stopping/starting/turning/signaling abilities. Even then, at first I left home earlier than usual to beat the crazy "late-to-work" drivers. My commute is very short, but is in some very dense traffic, so I was pretty timid at first. The practice beforehand paid off in building confidence.

Ultimately, more miles = more confidence and comfort.
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I don't want to give the impression to the TS I started riding at night in earnest as an absolute beginner.

I stated I rode very early on at night. I want to make it clear it was very late or early morning, NO traffic. I was simply trying to familiarize myself with riding on the street before I rode in "real" traffic.

I live in a very quiet area with a secondary highway a half block up. So I would take off and ride down that several blocks and make a right turn and ride through the neighborhood and back home. 30-40mph, thats it.

At the time the combo of dark and non traveled streets felt safe. I was assured i had the road to myself. And if not, I wouldn't be out there.
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Post by AlleyOops »

This is great info! I'm getting my new buddy delivered this week sometime.. and am signed up for the MSF course in about 2 weeks. There is a school very close to me, so I think I'm going to practice in the parking lot this week (its spring break)
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Wow - this was more helpful than i anticipated! Thank you for replying to my post. i AM quite anxious to be comfortable already, but i am also very cautious and will not be riding past my limits. I am so thankful that Oregon requires that motorcycle training course as it really has some invaluable information that everybody getting on a bike needs to be aware of.

I like the parking lot ideas...and riding at early morning or near dusk as there will be less cars on the road. Ill have to map out some places to practice at.

Thank you so much for your responses! I will be following all of this :D
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Sure thing, new Buddy rider. And #174 of the Psycho? That is truly awesome.

Check back into this thread and let us know how you are doing. Any other questions or concerns and know you will always find someone at MB who is interested :)
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Re: My Very First Scooter - Pyscho Buddy 125

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napohaku24 wrote: Any tips on a proper break in? i have read the manual and many break in suggestions online - i'm just looking for others personal experience and advice.
You will hear anything from "ride it like you stole it from day one", to "take it easy and break it in gently, varying the riding speed".

Personally, I'm mostly like the latter, but I still can't help going WOT away from lights, until I get up to speed. :P

I think most of the people on the forum would lean towards taking it easy(er) on the scooter for the first 500 -1000 miles and varying the speed.

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Thanks JH Scooter - you are quite the active memeber here! i have viewed a few of your posts...i truly enjoyed your thread from last week. That kind of stuff is right up my alley :)

Once the dealer told me the only Psycho he had was number 174, i knew that that particular Psycho was meant for me :) I had actually had my heart set on the blackJack, but had came to find out they were no longer made. the next bike that had me at hello was the psycho. so glad i made that choice to just buy it...even if i had ZERO experience on a bike/scooter. Im a go getter...ill learn!

@ Michelle_7728 - this may be a silly questions, but what does WOT mean? ive seen it used several times within these threads, but cant seem to figure out what it means. Also - ill have a pic up soon. :) I was waiting on all my gear to get here before taking pics, but its taking forever! i think ill just take a few mobile pics and upload tonight. thanks for asking...i probably would have waited another week or so before doing it had you not mentioned it.

@ Scoobadoobie...i love your username AND your advice here! i plan to start getting up a bit after sunrise to get some practice in parking lots and on the much traveled roads while most are still sleeping. thank you for replying!
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WOT = Wide Open Throttle

There are a lot of acronyms that you'll get the hang of. I would recommend checking out the FAQ section, you should find the glossary in there with all of the terms that are common among the scooter people. :atgatt:
(ATGATT is another, "All The Gear, All The Time")

Congrats on getting the last of the Psychos!
Enjoy your new scoot, and ride safe! :)
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Thank you AWinn - ill check that out. I was guessing With Other Traffic - even though it never fit. I was way off! :fp:
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I hadn't driven anything with 2 wheels ever, and I started on a 50cc with minimal practice.

If you practice on some lots, you should be fine when it comes to the msf. I certainly learned a ton of things I was doing wrong!

enjoy!
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lets hope this works...here is my new scooter.[/img]
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Pretty darn cool Alisha! Congrats on getting the last off the line!
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Awesome, scoot!

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Tip 1: Make sure you check out the blog at http://scootsafely.com/

Alan Hernshaw has excellent advice. He did a small presentation at one of our local shops (Vespa Marietta) and it was great!

Tip 2: Be highly visible to other road users.

Tip 3: I use my horn a lot as a communication tool I.E. *HONK* I'm here!
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