I love my helmet and armored jacket.

Sailboat13 · Post by **Sailboat13** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 pm

http://www.indeonline.com/news/x2138755 ... oter-crash Thanks to Modern Buddy I'll be ok. Sore as hell though. I wear protective gear because I was told to when I first joined Modern Buddy.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:41 pm

Good job wearing the gear! Hope you heal up soon and repair/replace the scoot.

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:59 pm

So glad to hear you are only sore! Hope you are reimbursed for the scooter and the soreness doesn't turn out to be anything serious. Did you get yourself checked-out?

but, dammit, it's in the 80's today and I was contemplating leaving my jacket under the seat for the ride home. I think I will re-think that idea.

Post by **ericalm** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:12 pm

I love my gear too.

Betcha $10 this story's actually about a guy on a mobility scooter, though.

k1dude · Post by **k1dude** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:51 pm

Whew! Glad you're OK. The 'ol left turn into a scooter/MC maneuver. It's always the left turners.

Mutt the Hoople · Post by **Mutt the Hoople** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:11 pm

ericalm wrote:I love my gear too.

Betcha $10 this story's actually about a guy on a mobility scooter, though.

I think the person in the article is the gentleman that started this thread. I don't think he was simply reporting the article. Glad he is okay.

Quo Vadimus · Post by **Quo Vadimus** » Wed May 16, 2012 8:54 pm

Also, while not impossible, I'd fathom it's difficult to "lay it down" on a mobility scooter...

Well protected, Sailboat. Heal up fast!

Post by **ericalm** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:06 pm

Mutt the Hoople wrote:
ericalm wrote:I love my gear too.

Betcha $10 this story's actually about a guy on a mobility scooter, though.
I think the person in the article is the gentleman that started this thread. I don't think he was simply reporting the article. Glad he is okay.

Gah! I owe Sailboat13 $10! That's what I get for not reading the text better!

Good to know you're okay! And sorry if my earlier post sounded flippant, all things considered.

(I have a Google alert for scooter reports in the news and half the results are mobility scooters!)

JHScoot · Post by **JHScoot** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:24 pm

at least the report didn't call the scoot a moped

pdxrita · Post by **pdxrita** » Wed May 16, 2012 9:53 pm

Glad you're okay Sailboat! Three cheers for proper gear!

chas · Post by **chas** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:14 pm

ericalm wrote:
Mutt the Hoople wrote:
ericalm wrote:I love my gear too.

Betcha $10 this story's actually about a guy on a mobility scooter, though.
I think the person in the article is the gentleman that started this thread. I don't think he was simply reporting the article. Glad he is okay.
Gah! I owe Sailboat13 $10! That's what I get for not reading the text better!

Good to know you're okay! And sorry if my earlier post sounded flippant, all things considered.

(I have a Google alert for scooter reports in the news and half the results are mobility scooters!)

Can somebody actually lay down a mobility scooter? Come to think of it, I bet that would actually look pretty funny in a sad/slow motioney kinda way.

Mutt the Hoople · Post by **Mutt the Hoople** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:30 pm

Don't know about mobility scooters, but the motorized wheelchairs can cause some scary traffic issues

Have yet to see any of the "drivers" wearing gear or crash helmets though.

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:32 pm

ow! already too many people have crashed or been hit lately.

You guys are making me nervous!

Glad you're OK, be well!

laxer · Post by **laxer** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:39 pm

Impressed and happy that you were wearing your gear and are okay. But I'm perhaps more impressed that you're 70 and you've figured out this internet thing

chas · Post by **chas** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:39 pm

skully93 wrote:ow! already too many people have crashed or been hit lately.

You guys are making me nervous!

Glad you're OK, be well!

We're just getting our crashes and falls out of the way so we that we still have time to get our scooters/broken bodies up and running before summer really kicks in.

chas · Post by **chas** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:40 pm

laxer wrote:Impressed and happy that you were wearing your gear and are okay. But I'm perhaps more impressed that you're 70 and you've figured out this internet thing

+1

Well said.

Mutt the Hoople · Post by **Mutt the Hoople** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:58 pm

chas wrote:
laxer wrote:Impressed and happy that you were wearing your gear and are okay. But I'm perhaps more impressed that you're 70 and you've figured out this internet thing
+1

Well said.

+another one... I was impressed with a guy who is 70 who is a scooter rider... And wears the gear too... Good for you Sailboat 13

Post by **ericalm** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:23 pm

I know a couple other septuagenarians who scoot and they're also wise enough to gear up! (One ride a Buddy and is sometimes on MB…)

bluebuddygirl · Post by **bluebuddygirl** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:42 pm

So glad you are alright. I was just driving through Massillon today and thinking how unaware some of the drivers seemed to be, not that Akron is any better, just more familiar : ) Keep us/me updated. Us NE Ohio scooter riders gotta stick together.

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Thu May 17, 2012 2:05 am

Sailboat13 wrote:http://www.indeonline.com/news/x2138755 ... oter-crash Thanks to Modern Buddy I'll be ok. Sore as hell though. I wear protective gear because I was told to when I first joined Modern Buddy.

Aren't helmets and armored jackets great? I was in a wreck a couple of years ago when I first started riding (age 48 at the time). Basically I landed on my shoulder and slid into the SUV hitting my head below the door area on the frame.

Believe it or not, I was totally fine, except for a little road rash on my knee. Did chiropractic for a while just to be on the safe side though.

Get well soon!

Swordsman · Post by **Swordsman** » Fri May 18, 2012 1:07 am

Mutt the Hoople wrote:Don't know about mobility scooters, but the motorized wheelchairs can cause some scary traffic issues
Have yet to see any of the "drivers" wearing gear or crash helmets though.

I would need a helmet if I had one, 'cuz I'd be overvolting that sunnovagun... I learned all kinds of nifty things watching BattleBots.

~SM

Mutt the Hoople · Post by **Mutt the Hoople** » Fri May 18, 2012 2:21 am

Swordsman wrote:
Mutt the Hoople wrote:Don't know about mobility scooters, but the motorized wheelchairs can cause some scary traffic issues
Have yet to see any of the "drivers" wearing gear or crash helmets though.
I would need a helmet if I had one, 'cuz I'd be overvolting that sunnovagun... I learned all kinds of nifty things watching BattleBots.

~SM

LOL

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Fri May 18, 2012 6:13 pm

Glad you're okay!

As for mobility scooters... when my mum went to go look at my 170 at the city impound lot, she said it was at the back of the lot in a small row of scooters, two of which were mangled mobility scooters, which is kind of a sickening thought if you ask me.

Sailboat13 · Post by **Sailboat13** » Thu May 24, 2012 1:02 pm

Boy, this is getting to be tiresome. I have a question,,,My shoie helmet hit pretty hard on the road. It may have even saved my life (who knows). I've read that even though a helmet is not cracked or show any signs of being damaged one should never wear it again. I went and got a written replacement cost (@$725.00) and I intent to show this to the fella coming this morning to look at my scooter. Even though the guy was ticketed for failure to yield his insurance hasn't agreed to pay yet. ( I have a lawyer). Should I try to make them buy me a new helmet? Thank you

Capt_Don · Post by **Capt_Don** » Thu May 24, 2012 1:29 pm

Sailboat13 wrote:Boy, this is getting to be tiresome. I have a question,,,My shoie helmet hit pretty hard on the road. It may have even saved my life (who knows). I've read that even though a helmet is not cracked or show any signs of being damaged one should never wear it again. I went and got a written replacement cost (@$725.00) and I intent to show this to the fella coming this morning to look at my scooter. Even though the guy was ticketed for failure to yield his insurance hasn't agreed to pay yet. ( I have a lawyer). Should I try to make them buy me a new helmet? Thank you

Yes you should try!

Rippinyarn · Post by **Rippinyarn** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:21 pm

To the OP - Way to rock the gear! Glad that you are OK.

And yes, if a helmet contact the ground or another hard surface WITH YOUR HEAD IN IT, it should be replaced as the "compressability" of the lining has been compromised. It's done its job slowing the impact of your brain into your skull.

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:32 pm

Sailboat,

I got a new helmet and all I had was a tiny scuff on the paint. The insurance company doesn't want to mess around with your safety. If you have comprehensive coverage, whether or not the other insurance agrees you can just ask them for the cost.

Of course I'm going off my Geico exp, your mileage may vary.

PeteH · Post by **PeteH** » Thu May 24, 2012 2:49 pm

I just got another Bell Custom 500 and face shield in the mail yesterday. As I noted in another thread, some asshat knocked my scooter over onto the helmet, which was locked to the side of the scoot using the underseat pegs. It scraped a good bit of the metalflake off the helmet, and you could feel a distortion from the inside of the helmet.

Since the Bell and shield were only about $130 or so compared to the Shoei's $750, I didn't consider filing a claim. I chalked it up to experience and to the helmet taking the hit and preventing any damage to the scooter's panels, mirrors, levers, or trim.

k1dude · Post by **k1dude** » Thu May 24, 2012 5:17 pm

Yes, you should claim the helmet and your torn up armored clothing. It's all part of damages as a result of the accident. If the claims adjuster gives you guff, print out ANY helmet company's statement that a helmet needs to be replaced after an impact.

LunaP · Post by **LunaP** » Fri May 25, 2012 7:47 am

Sailboat13 wrote:Boy, this is getting to be tiresome. I have a question,,,My shoie helmet hit pretty hard on the road. It may have even saved my life (who knows). I've read that even though a helmet is not cracked or show any signs of being damaged one should never wear it again. I went and got a written replacement cost (@$725.00) and I intent to show this to the fella coming this morning to look at my scooter. Even though the guy was ticketed for failure to yield his insurance hasn't agreed to pay yet. ( I have a lawyer). Should I try to make them buy me a new helmet? Thank you

YES. Yes. Yes.

If they won't buy you one outright, you can tell them that they must pay to have your helmet INSPECTED. As I understand it, this is usually done by mailing it to the manufacturer. A helmet that has no outside damage can be taken apart and inspected for damage on the inside- damage to the parts that would actually protect you during a crash- and then put back together.

The insurance company would likely have to pay shipping both ways and a fee for the inspection. The upside for them is that if no damage is found, this is less costly than replacing your helmet (and you don't have to buy a new one). BUT if they find that it is in fact damage they will have to pay for a replacement AND for the inspection.

Make some calls to your local shop and to Shoei about getting the helmet inspected- if they don't offer it, then it isn't an option. Also, did your helmet come with a warranty? Is crash replacement with that warranty? Some of the expensive, higher end helmets offer manufacturer's warranties that replace the helmet if it goes down in a crash, all you need to provide is a police report.

ANY gear that you scuffed up should technically be replaced. If you scuffed a jacket or boot, it has lost integrity and sturdiness in the place where it was scuffed or torn and can't be relied on to protect you in that same spot in the future.

I know how frustrating fighting with insurance is, I'm in the middle of it myself, but it will be worth it in the long run. Absolutely ask for your lawyer's help if you need it. You could also try and see if your insurance agent from your company has any tips for you.

ThreeSheets · Post by **ThreeSheets** » Fri May 25, 2012 1:34 pm

Glad your ok! I knew something was always up with the Lefties

I kid I kid.. Heal up!

Dracolibris · Post by **Dracolibris** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:01 pm

Very glad you are going to be OK, and hopeful that you can get all expenses back from the damage caused to you by the accident.

Last night, on my first scooter night ride home from work on my new scooter, the last thing I ever expected was to pull up to a red light and turn just in time to see a ginormous pit bull (or mix) LUNGING out of an open car window to get at me, while barking like he wanted to tear my head off. Holy yikes!!! The driver AND passenger barely managed to get hold of him before he was out, but then she just sat there holding on to his collar, without even looking at me, apologizing or even ROLLING HER WINDOW UP! For three stop lights! I do not hate dogs, or pits, but I sure dislike the stupid ghetto people in my neighborhood.

If you know your dog likes to, oh, I don' t know, ATTACK people, maybe you should drive with your windows rolled up, hmmm? I was pretty scared, but also gratefeul I was wearing armor!

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Fri May 25, 2012 2:21 pm

Heh.

Sorry you had to get surprised by ANGRY DOG! Some dogs HATE scooters, and the owner might not have known that at the time.

Generally keeping your windows at a level where the dog isn't able to do stupid things is a good rule though...

cdwise · Post by **cdwise** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:13 pm

ericalm wrote:I know a couple other septuagenarians who scoot and they're also wise enough to gear up! (One ride a Buddy and is sometimes on MB…)

There is a guy in his 90s over on the Modern Vespa forum. Rides regularly out to the air field to meet up with his flying buddies.

Glad the OP suffered no serious injury and the insurance company is liable for all your accessories, helmet, gear and anything else damaged (cell phone in pocket for example.)

k1dude · Post by **k1dude** » Fri May 25, 2012 6:15 pm

I have a big herd of sheep that move from pasture to pasture around where I live. The dog that guards the sheep HATES my scooter. Everytime I drive by he'll race next to the fenceline the whole time I drive by and bark like mad. I know the sheep herder, so one day he was out and I stopped to chat. He commented that his dog wasn't barking for fun, he could tell by the dog's bark that the dog was REALLY angry. He said don't get close to it. I have no idea why the dog would be so angry.

Dracolibris · Post by **Dracolibris** » Fri May 25, 2012 11:13 pm

RE: Dogs that hate scooters

Maybe it is because they are confused? Are we a car? A person? Some speed demon /giant bunny rabbit out to invade their territory?

My husband said that one my scooter last night, I must have appeared to that vicious dog like the robot bunny greyhounds chase during their races as we kept meeting up and different stoplights.

Sailboat13 · Post by **Sailboat13** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:43 am

I got a long awaited phone call from my lawyer today. The insurance company for the guy who turned in front of me told my lawyer that because they think that I could have somehow avoided that guys truck that they would only pay 65% of my damages. They said that they thought I "over reacted" by hitting my brakes and that I could have turned (or something) to avoid the accident. The guy was cited for failure to yield. DAMN! They aren't going to pay any of my medical. I am in shock over this turn of events.

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:15 am

I've never heard of an insurance company trying to claim partial culpability for something like this. Is your insurance going to help fight this? That's part of what they (should) do.

Were there any witnesses?

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:12 pm

yeah that sounds like a major cop out. "well, you could have avoided this ridiculous circumstance.."

Sure I could have, I could have had people IQ tested, and anyone that failed wouldn't be allowed to drive, much like your brain donor client.....

If there were any witnesses at all, I would argue the case beyond belief.

Sailboat13 · Post by **Sailboat13** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:31 pm

Just got a call to come in and sign a check to finalize the whole thing. Without going into it too much I'll end up with just enough to pay my bills and a few bucks left over. The guys insurance person was not going to pay much of anything until we got a witness to say that there was no way I could avoid that truck. Still, even after admitting fault the guy made us fight for every penny. Its been a long road and I'm glad its nearly over.
One thing I learned was that a personal injury lawyer doesn't make any money from damages, only Med bills. I wasn't at fault, I didn't try to run up my med bills, but I still was put through a ringer just getting them to pay. I'm happy that I'm Ok, but this whole thing has left me feeling pissed for what I had to go through. PS. They WOULD Not replace my helmet nor jacket. They gave a me a few bucks for both,,,,that's it. If I wanted to fight it it would have taken more time and money and they knew that, thus the small settlement. Best thing is I'm Ok.

phatch · Post by **phatch** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:30 am

That's REALLY crappy... If only we were all lawyers! Hey, at the very least, you're still here, and we can thank the gear for that!

michelle_7728 · Post by **michelle_7728** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:45 am

Wow that's pretty bad. I was treated better when a woman pulled out in front of me and I didn't even have a lawyer.

Well, like you said, you're okay. You have that to be thankful for, at least.

Modern Buddy

I love my helmet and armored jacket.

I love my helmet and armored jacket.

Re: I love my helmet and armored jacket.

An adjuster is coming this AM to look at my scooter.

Re: An adjuster is coming this AM to look at my scooter.

Re: An adjuster is coming this AM to look at my scooter.

Bad news

Its nearly over now,,,finally.