suggestions????

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:18 pm

Looking into making my buddy faster
its all stock rite now its a 125cc
what can I do

Please let me know suggestions
Or if theres parts you put on yours and how much faster did it go

Tazio · Post by **Tazio** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:26 pm

Paint it green.

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:33 pm

Haha funny suggestion but idk if green will do it thanks tho

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:37 pm

Kit it to 161cc and change the gearing.

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:46 pm

How much faster can you get with the 161cc kit and gearing

Disney · Post by **Disney** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:48 pm

Tazio wrote:Paint it green.

If you add decals, it can boost up the 125cc to 170cc's.

I think they racing stripes are only available for the 170i mods... That's why it's FI. Now you wonder why there are no stripes on the 125-150cc's

Tocsik · Post by **Tocsik** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:04 pm

How many miles on it?
Best "mod" is to wait for 1500 miles.
That's when the motor really breaks-in.

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:16 pm

Skootz Kabootz wrote:Kit it to 161cc and change the gearing.

What are the details on doing this? Estimated cost? Can anyone comment on their experience making the mods and with the results?

If I were to look into doing this my goal would be to get more speed off the line while maintaining the current top speeds. In other words I wouldn't be looking for faster maximum speeds, just for zippier acceleration and better climbing.

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:20 pm

By faster do you mean off the line acceleration or at the top speed?

You can get better off the line acceleration with a performance variator, clutch, clutch spring and lighter weights/sliders.

Cheapest mod for the benefit: medium windshield. Modest boost in top end, on hills and better MPGs.

black buddy wrote:How much faster can you get with the 161cc kit and gearing

You want the 161 kit plus the bigger head. Not sure the larger gear set is available—yet.

For all modifications, results vary by rider, how it's installed, broken in, tuned, etc. (Engine needs to be broken in again with a kit.) But an increase of 5mph-10mph on the top end isn't unusual. A kitted 125 is faster than a stock 150.

After a cylinder kit and transmission upgrades, there are other modifications, but your value for the cost of parts and installation in exchange for performance really diminishes.

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:33 pm

Do you want more MPH or do you want a quicker 0-60?

MPH:
Easy
heavier rollers/sliders (lowers rpms at a given speed)
performance CDI and coil (allows you to run at higher rpms)
performance variator (front pulley) (allows more belt travel, usually)
Moderate
airbox mod, upjet, performance pipe (more air + more gas = more power)
Hard
161 cylinder kit (more cc's yay!)
performance head (big valve or port and polished)

0-60 is basically the same, but
lighter rollers/sliders (more rpms at a given speed)
heavier clutch arm springs (increase the rpms where the clutch engages)
same as above

-duo

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:44 pm

Thanks will look into it whats a good dealer to order parts off

Skootz Kabootz · Post by **Skootz Kabootz** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:49 pm

Tocsik wrote:How many miles on it?
Best "mod" is to wait for 1500 miles.
That's when the motor really breaks-in.

+1 This. If it is not broken in do nothing until you're broken in @ +/- 1500 miles. Then reassess. You'll be surprised what a difference it makes.

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:52 pm

Christophers wrote:
Skootz Kabootz wrote:Kit it to 161cc and change the gearing.
What are the details on doing this? Estimated cost? Can anyone comment on their experience making the mods and with the results?

If I were to look into doing this my goal would be to get more speed off the line while maintaining the current top speeds. In other words I wouldn't be looking for faster maximum speeds, just for zippier acceleration and better climbing.

I'd suggest starting with the transmission mods, then. Cheaper, easier and easier to maintain. Less long-term wear on your engine.

In fact, you might want to start experimenting with rollers/sliders for the stock variator. Roughly $30 a pop. You might get what you want with relatively little expense, though it's a trial-and-error process.

161cc kit is $184
Big valve head is $114
Installation will run you up to $350-$400 in labor, depending on your shop.

(Stage 2 kit is $429 and includes the cylinder kit, Prima pipe, clutch spring, rollers and three jets.)

NCY Transmission kit (variator, clutch, etc.) runs $224 and is fairly easy to install. Similar process to a transmission maintenance; much easier to DIY than the cylinder kit and tuning.

Dr. Pulley variator (only) is about $135.

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:56 pm

ericalm wrote:Dr. Pulley variator (only) is about $135.

prices are all scooterworks

buggypartsnw has the Dr.P variator for $99

Post by **ericalm** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:57 pm

SYMbionic Duo wrote:
ericalm wrote:Dr. Pulley variator (only) is about $135.
prices are all scooterworks

buggypartsnw has the Dr.P variator for $99

Scooterworks doesn't carry this, so I just Googled it. But, yeah, comparison shop. I'm just ballparking here to give an idea of costs!

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:02 pm

might wanna look a little harder Eric.

scooterworks wrote: Item #: 1200-1135

Your Price: $134.00
THIS ITEM IS IN STOCK

Christophers · Post by **Christophers** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:15 pm

Thanks for the links, Eric!

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:30 pm

Thanks guys gona start with a trans kit and see how I like it

Dr.pulley?
Or
Ncy?

SYMbionic Duo · Post by **SYMbionic Duo** » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:42 pm

the ncy is the whole transmission with out a belt
the dr pulley is just the front pulley, it doesn't have the back half
dr pulley does have a "HiT clutch", but it is $$$$ and only the clutch.

black buddy · Post by **black buddy** » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:13 am

So ncy it is....

Modern Buddy

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