Better Gas Milage?

Lsealum · Post by **Lsealum** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:33 am

Hey Everyone,

I've been using the Fuelly website to track my gas milage and am currently getting 76mph on my Buddy 125. I would like to get nearer to 90 to 100 mph if possible.

It would be great to hear thoughts on ways we could all get better milage out of our scooters.

Thanks in advance everyone!

skully93 · Post by **skully93** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:14 am

This depends on a lot of things:

1) your weight. If you weigh 180+, it isn't likely unless you ride where it's flat at 35 mph and few stops.

2) your speed and terrain. Hills? 50 mph?

3) your environment.

4) tire pressure. Are you at the recommended psi?

5) how many miles are on your scoot?

If I ride mine like I stole it I get @ 80mpg. My wife is 45lbs lighter, has 25cc less, and gets @ 100mpg

Also, mathematically it's kind of a moot point at @ 70mpg, until you get to about 120mpg anyway. 76mpg on such a small, efficient things is amazing.

A fuel injected c3 50cc or a buddy 170i will get better mpg too. Remember that a 125 is a carbed little single!

MYSCTR · Post by **MYSCTR** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:29 am

RIDE SLOWER

Our daughter has been tracked as high as 110.3 on her red 125 buddy.

She is mucho lighter and she does ride like a girl.

My wife averages 84.2 although she has come very close to 100 a few times on her 150.

I tend go go WOT off the line and average 77.3 on my 150.

A few weeks ago we did motor paced some cyclists and I jumped over 80 for the next two tanks.

Lsealum · Post by **Lsealum** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:42 am

I weigh 200 lbs, give or take a few pounds in any given week. I am in Houston with a decent amount of stop lights on my regular routes going around 50mph and I also ride a stretch of Hw6 with no lights @ 65mph for about 4 miles each way at least once a week. Psi is on point and the terrain is flat and the environment hot as a summer revival.

Great replies so far. Thanks everyone

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:11 am

I weigh 185, ride mostly on rural 2 lane roads, run 55-60 bmph, and I usually get 95-105 mpg on my 170i. My TGB R9i/sidecar rig gets 45 mpg
on the same roads running 40-50 tgbmph.

TVB · Post by **TVB** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:33 am

Ride downhill more.

Tazio · Post by **Tazio** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:57 pm

Cheapest way is to get down to my weight, 128 lbs, when I get up in the morning. I get 116 mpg on my Buddy 125.

k1dude · Post by **k1dude** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:24 pm

When I ride it like I stole it, I get about 75mpg. When I ride it normally, I get about 85mpg. When I ride it in the countryside without stoplights/stopsigns at 35 to 45 mph, I get about 110mpg.

GearsAndSuch · Post by **GearsAndSuch** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:34 pm

Short of keeping up on maintenance, keeping under 1/2 throttle, the next best thing is to focus on aerodynamics and wieght of the rider and scooter. The scooter is pretty much stripped already, but make sure you're not carrying a huge tool kit in the pet carrier for trips where it's easier to just call a tow truck or walk home. Don't wear flappy outerwear. Full face helmet, put you stuff -in- the pet carrier, not a topcase or backpack. Get a windscreen.

Consider just being smug that 70 mpg is pretty damn good.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:54 pm

Just checked my Buddy 170i. 97 mpg on todays fill up. I run 55-60 bmph
here in the foothills to NGA mountains. Have gotten as high as 105 when I was not running 3/4-fulll throttle. I weigh 185 lbs. The scoot has safddle bagas and a top trunk.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:56 pm

PS: safddle bagas make all the difference.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:01 pm

And has a wundscrum too.

Whimscootie · Post by **Whimscootie** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:51 pm

Wolfhound wrote:And has a wundscrum too.

Yer sew finny!!

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:07 pm

Thankee, ah triees

KrispyKreme · Post by **KrispyKreme** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

I weigh 160 and get about 70mpg on my 150. I do have to "get on it" during my commute. I would not worry so much about getting 100mpg. Is it really that important?

KABarash · Post by **KABarash** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:48 pm

I was averaging somewhere in the 80s on my 150.
I live in an area where I regularly deal with some hills and when I was commuting on it I rode pretty hard.
If you really think of it I didn't much care or track it after a while, at that high mpg, why bother unless you're trying to calculate if you'll make it to the next gas station.
My fuel gauge seems to be ok in the accuracy department, when it shows me I need gas, I fill the tank. Usually about 1.2 gals when the needle is firmly in the red.

Wolfhound · Post by **Wolfhound** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 2:36 pm

If gas prices double as may happen depending on Middle East conditions then gas milage will definitely matter and 50cc scooter sales will go up.
My Buddy 170i and my TGB gas gauges are not very accurate. I keep track of MPG as it gives me something to do.

dogbuddy · Post by **dogbuddy** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:02 pm

I have found that if you take off the air filter box and take a dremel sanding drum and take some of the material off of the inside of the round plastic intake air channel, that my gas mileage went up. Everything is tuned just right...so you don't want to take off too much..just a little should make a difference. When you compare a trip..it should take about 50 cents to a dollar less to fill the tank. I am getting about 135 miles per tank full , and that is full time full throttle. I also replaced the stock sponge air filter with air conditioner filter medium by cutting it to the same shape as the original filter including the plastic holding pins and screw holes....it is much thinner and still filters the air flowing through it. This won't improve your power or speed...but this little trick definitely increased my gas mileage. I'm not even sure what made me think of it. Odd ideas come to my mind sometimes.

lovemysan · Post by **lovemysan** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:27 pm

dogbuddy wrote:I have found that if you take off the air filter box and take a dremel sanding drum and take some of the material off of the inside of the round plastic intake air channel, that my gas mileage went up. Everything is tuned just right...so you don't want to take off too much..just a little should make a difference. When you compare a trip..it should take about 50 cents to a dollar less to fill the tank. I am getting about 135 miles per tank full , and that is full time full throttle. I also replaced the stock sponge air filter with air conditioner filter medium by cutting it to the same shape as the original filter including the plastic holding pins and screw holes....it is much thinner and still filters the air flowing through it. This won't improve your power or speed...but this little trick definitely increased my gas mileage. I'm not even sure what made me think of it. Odd ideas come to my mind sometimes.

Modifying the airbox without up jetting the carb could result in a lean condition that will eventually destroy you ending. The factory jetting is
pretty lean to begin with. Yes you will have more power initially but 2 strokes always run there best right before they die.

Neurotic-Hapi-Snak · Post by **Neurotic-Hapi-Snak** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:10 am

lovemysan wrote:
dogbuddy wrote:I have found that if you take off the air filter box and take a dremel sanding drum and take some of the material off of the inside of the round plastic intake air channel, that my gas mileage went up. Everything is tuned just right...so you don't want to take off too much..just a little should make a difference. When you compare a trip..it should take about 50 cents to a dollar less to fill the tank. I am getting about 135 miles per tank full , and that is full time full throttle. I also replaced the stock sponge air filter with air conditioner filter medium by cutting it to the same shape as the original filter including the plastic holding pins and screw holes....it is much thinner and still filters the air flowing through it. This won't improve your power or speed...but this little trick definitely increased my gas mileage. I'm not even sure what made me think of it. Odd ideas come to my mind sometimes.
Modifying the airbox without up jetting the carb could result in a lean condition that will eventually destroy you ending. The factory jetting is
pretty lean to begin with. Yes you will have more power initially but 2 strokes always run there best right before they die.

+1. 2Ts are really dependent on the correct air/fuel ratio, since the fuel supplies the engine lubrication. On a 4T, lean will result in poor performance and may result in decreased engine longevity. On a 2T, it may result in a seized piston or failed crank or connecting rod at speed.

MYSCTR · Post by **MYSCTR** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:47 pm

MYSCTR wrote:A few weeks ago we did motor paced some cyclists and I jumped over 80 for the next two tanks.

Update: Last weekend we rode down from McKinney at speed, topped off our tanks then met up with a local group ride in Dallas to go to Arlngton then Ft Worth and back at a pretty casual group pace the whole way. My wife got 103.3 mpg and I got 98.51 mpg. First time ever to clock 118 miles on this scoot in one tank and had gas left! Last ten tanks below off Fuelly.com

# - Miles / Fuel / MPG
43 - 118.80 - 1.21 - 98.51
42 - 32.60 - 0.40 - 81.30
41 - 96.50 - 1.19 - 81.09
40 - 103.40 - 1.26 - 82.19
39 - 102.60 - 1.28 - 80.09
38 - 99.60 - 1.30 - 76.62
37 - 96.20 - 1.20 - 80.50
36 - 101.30 - 1.24 - 81.89
35 - 101.10 - 1.30 - 77.65
34 - 94.80 - 1.34 - 70.59

Stinkdyr · Post by **Stinkdyr** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:06 am

2009 RH50 with 10k on her. Technigas exhaust. Otherwise unmodded. I weigh 220 and ride entirely flat city traffic. I get 75mpg. And she can hit 40mph....if I spank her gently and call her dirty names!

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